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EXCLUSIVE: Maps and Data Show Possible Location of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370
Western Free Press ^ | 3/18/14 | guest contributor

Posted on 03/18/2014 7:24:02 AM PDT by mandrews222

I had come to the same conclusion by examining the available data. I am quite familiar with that area and that particular route. I have flown it a lot of times.

My guess is they want the airplane…passengers are probably dead. That is a no brainer…simply don the O2 masks in cockpit and reach up and throw the pressurization switch and bingo 2 minutes later everybody is dead.

APPARENT HIJACKING OF MALAYSIA FLIGHT 370 ON MARCH 8, 2014

I have annotated the best available satellite “ping” data and Malaysian military skin-track radar data on the undoubtedly hijacked Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. This is not what the “experts” and government authorities want you to hear. The likely search area is much narrower than they have led us to believe. I have marked the official Malaysian government map released by the Prime Minister green (the black-gray lines and words in black-gray letters such as “Last known possible position …” and the red arcs are all official Malaysian map graphics). The second map, below the top map, is from the NY Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at westernfreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flight370; iran; malaysia; mh370; mh370path; planehijack; waronterror
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To: Art in Idaho

It wasn’t flying in Chinese air space.

It was flying to Pakistan, through Indian air space.


41 posted on 03/18/2014 10:06:06 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pabianice

Details, details...


42 posted on 03/18/2014 10:08:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RinaseaofDs

>> “One question most people haven’t thought to ask I believe: Do pilots know that their engines are sending pings to the satellites? If so, can those pings be shut down from the flight deck?” <<

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Yes, and no.

The data come directly from the engines, powered by the engines. There would be no reason to run a switch to the cockpit, as that would increase the chance of a short, not decrease it.


43 posted on 03/18/2014 10:12:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pabianice

“As for the pilots, at FL 430 you need positive pressure O2 masks. I do not believe the crew had such masks.”

All jets have pressure masks for the flight deck crew. Passengers have the continuous flow masks.


44 posted on 03/18/2014 10:23:36 AM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: mandrews222

The Captain flipped out. He killed the copilot, turned off reporting systems, pulled circuit breakers, turned off the packs and ascended to 45k ft. to kill everyone in back, (the masks didn’t drop because system breaker was pulled). Flight/voice recorders store the last 2 hrs. of data, pilot has no control over that, breakers not located in flight deck so he flies for hours to overwrite data and dumps the aircraft in the deep remote Indian Ocean.

That’s what I think happened.


45 posted on 03/18/2014 10:24:11 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: old curmudgeon
Throughout the articles, there is not one single verifiable quote, fact, link, etc,, to support the truth of this statement.

The comment could have been given on background... and a decision was made to 'run with it' because enough people thought the source was credible. Or it will become one of those memorable 'mistakes' the press makes when a story is breaking. Time will tell.

46 posted on 03/18/2014 10:42:25 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fighter pilot manoeuvers"? One of the SaudiÂ’s we trained in Texas years ago?)
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To: pabianice

” As for the pilots, at FL 430 you need positive pressure O2 masks.”

At FL 430 pilots are required to have O2 masks. The 777 is certified to cruise at FL430 meaning passengers would be comfortable without O2 masks.


47 posted on 03/18/2014 10:44:00 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: mandrews222
There is one and only one explanation for this missing jet story....SNAKES ON A PLANE!


48 posted on 03/18/2014 11:01:36 AM PDT by jetson
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To: IMR 4350

Interesting take. It makes you sick that Obama is at the table, as it were, discussing this. All part of his new ‘flexibility.’ Man, January, 2017 seems a long way off. .


49 posted on 03/18/2014 11:04:15 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: editor-surveyor
It wasn’t flying in Chinese air space. It was flying to Pakistan, through Indian air space.

Same thing, the Indian military would have reacted too?

50 posted on 03/18/2014 11:10:42 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Java4Jay
Interesting take. A 777 Captain called in to Rush today and said his take was similar except he said it was probably an Allah Akbar suicide. Said if you went nose in at highest speed possible "there wouldn't be a piece bigger than a thumbnail, it would probably all sink, and if the fuel was near fumes, there wouldn't be an oil/gas slick."

The 777 pilot caller also said he's talked with the FBI about his concern that, "there are a lot of foreign nationals flying on American carriers." "It used to be you had to be an American national to fly with the Airlines. Oh, we had a few Canadians, but they were all Americans. Sometime in the 90's they started 'admitting' qualified foreign nationals as pilots." He said, "Yeah, I'm a nationalist, hell I'm an ex-Navy pilot, but I think Americans should be behind that locked door." . .

Will anything come of this? Or will the PC police say the Afghani pilot flying for United is fine, nothing to see here, move along. . .

51 posted on 03/18/2014 11:28:39 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: mandrews222
It is very possible that the hijackers flew along a standard airline route from Singapore to New Delhi where the Indian military air defense radar personnel would ignore the flight as simply a normal airliner, and the Indian civilian air traffic controllers would not even know or “see” the hijacked airliner because the hijackers had turned its transponder off three to five hours earlier.

*facepalm*

52 posted on 03/18/2014 11:33:16 AM PDT by McGruff (They say the first casualty of war is truth)
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To: editor-surveyor

I appreciate the response. It would seem to me like there would be a desire to prevent a commercial heavy from transmitting anything at all for all kinds of reasons.

I would be surprised if this couldn’t be controlled from the flight deck, but your logic is pretty formidable.

Every inch of cabling on a plane matters.


53 posted on 03/18/2014 12:05:11 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: editor-surveyor

“Yes, and no.

The data come directly from the engines, powered by the engines. There would be no reason to run a switch to the cockpit, as that would increase the chance of a short, not decrease it.”

The data from the engines is also available to the pilots for them to monitor engine performance. The engine data is then sent via the ACARS system which performs other data transmission activities.


54 posted on 03/18/2014 12:18:09 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Completely different circuits.

Data feed and power are not the same, even on the simplest devices.


55 posted on 03/18/2014 7:27:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Please do a short refresher on the 777 electrical distribution system. Thank you.


56 posted on 03/18/2014 8:54:19 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: lacrew

The plane does NOT have to be on or even near the “arcs”. The plane can be anywhere within the area circumscribed by the arcs, which represent the horizon of the satellite, which was located above the Indian Ocean at the location marked on the illustration in Post No. 4.


57 posted on 03/24/2014 5:05:28 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

I initially thought the same - but other reporting (and the search area) have indicated that the satellite ‘pings’ could determine range. Somewhere on here I even saw a graphic which showed the two potential ping locations at each of 6 pings.

I will admit that it looks suspiciously like each ping gave a nearly identical range to the satellite, which seems very unlikely...I assume (I hope) that a ping from the 1st hour of flight was used to validate the accuracy of the ping range finding. It seems the searchers have placed great faith in this, as they are only searching the Indian Ocean in the vicinity of the last ping.

I’ve also thought they could do a degree of elimination, by determining which satellites did NOT ping the plane...assuming there is overlap in coverage, the circular coverage zone of the one satellite that did ping it could be reduced by the overlap zones that did not ping the plane.


58 posted on 03/24/2014 6:29:47 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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