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To: ifinnegan

in fact you are more at risk to get the flu if you take the flu vax. just came out this year, meta study of years of data.

so kind of thwarts the idea that not getting vaxs is stupid.

also they have gotten rid of many vax’s that were created without using aborted cell lines. i dont make a point to benefit from those murdered by abortion at their expense.


41 posted on 03/17/2014 8:21:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Flu vaccine is very different than measles or chicken pox or smallpox or polio etc...

Try not to be ignorant. It’s not a conservative virtue.

I say this agreeing that the yearly flu vaccines may not help. I never take them and not get the flu


46 posted on 03/17/2014 8:25:19 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Secret Agent Man
in fact you are more at risk to get the flu if you take the flu vax. just came out this year, meta study of years of data.

Not likely. Let's see the data please.

54 posted on 03/17/2014 8:29:01 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Secret Agent Man
in fact you are more at risk to get the flu if you take the flu vax. just came out this year, meta study of years of data

You should read the articles about this again. There was no meta study showing this. There was a meta study questioning efficacy rates, but only in certain groups. There was also an article about research done on ferrets that I think you're referring to about increased likelihood of flu which applied to only ONE year, 2009. The researcher's theory

That theory relates to the fact that the 2008 vaccine protected against an H1N1 virus that was related to — but not similar enough to — the pandemic virus to generate antibodies that would neutralize it. The thinking is that might actually have facilitated infection with the pandemic virus.
Note that the researcher also said
But in the meantime, Skowronski insisted the findings should not deter people from getting seasonal flu shots. "I do think it's important to clarify that our findings are unique to the pandemic," she insisted. "Pandemics are infrequent occurrences, but seasonal influenza recurs on an annual basis. It's a substantial cause of morbidity and mortality," — science's term for illness and death — "and the seasonal vaccine substantially protects against that severe outcome due to seasonal influenza."

83 posted on 03/17/2014 9:48:56 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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