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Malay Mystery: Why its possible that MH370 might have been shot down
Pajamas Media ^ | 03/17/2014 | Charlie Martin

Posted on 03/17/2014 8:17:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Usagi_yo
3. Is it at all possible that the actual black boxes on the plane were disabled prior to takeoff?

No. The radar transponder would have to squawk the assigned code or ATC would have known immediately the transponder was not reporting.

The other "black boxes" you refer to on this plane, do a myriad of things but most are passive collectors of data except the ELT.

The ELT would only be activated by crash or contact with water but not transmit in normal flight.

21 posted on 03/17/2014 9:14:38 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Usagi_yo
If they blew the cockpit door off that resulted in cabin decompression that eventually lead to a dead crew and passangers,

Or maybe they "use enough dynamite there Butch?" and took the complete nose off the aircraft. And unlike Flight 800, it flew straight and level for hours.

22 posted on 03/17/2014 9:19:52 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"One of our planes is missing. That’s basically all we know for certain right now," At least you got one thing right. What is your purpose? Don't you have anything better to do than speculate and concoct additional unfounded rumors which just muddy the waters (pun not intended) and may actually divert attention from where it need be applied.

"Here’s some things we do know now." And just who is the "we" to which you refer?

" ...suggestive bits of information...." Which are not even close to facts.

".... They now think..." Who are "they" to which you refer? "... might..." As Elvis and Bigfoot might be living in the same cave?

" It’s very difficult to......" Yes, and it's very difficult to reach the moon, but.....

"....strong indication...." More than moderate indication, but less than absolute?

" So, now is the part of Malay Mystery in which we speculate." Most everything that you have conjured is pure speculation so from this point forward it is labeled as such?

" As far as I can see, there are about four possible explanations." Only four? A rank amateur could come up with at least a dozen.

" First, something happened." No kidding?

" So, let’s imagine." How distant is imagining from delusional?

" Second, someone who knew the plane hijacked or diverted the flight." Just how long did it take you to recognize the obvious?

".... Now, this hypothetical hijacker..." So the guy is not an actual hijacker?

" ....could have...." Should have, would have, might have, etc. Really?

".... So possibility...." Not probably? What is the inferred statistical probability based upon an adequate quantity of sound data and or experience?

"....which is what you'd expect....." Who is you and why?

" ...could have...", "...possibility...", "...seems to me...", "...seems unlikely...", "...I think...", "... this option...", ad nauseum".

"... putting on our fiction-writing hats..." Why didn't you advise others at the beginning of your post?

So far I've probably had about as much fun with my nonsense as you had with yours. But it is becoming a bore so I will leave and go do something meaningful.

P.S. A Tom Clancy you are not. Not even a contender, but a great pretended.

23 posted on 03/17/2014 9:24:55 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: virgil

Malaysian Air Force was first to say they tracked the plane.....then they retracted that......then said it was true.


24 posted on 03/17/2014 9:26:48 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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Have a look at this.....I believe he may have solved the puzzle

HERE

http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68

25 posted on 03/17/2014 9:35:15 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: SeekAndFind
A transponder is a device that transmits a response. In a plane, the transponder is receiving an interrogation and responding by transmitting a burst of data.

The military version of that is called IFF IIRC- Identification Friend or Foe. But then I'm an ol' Squid, whaddo I know?

26 posted on 03/17/2014 9:35:46 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
There is no debris because the aircraft was sucked into a black hole...note the contrail. MH370 now exists in another time and dimension.


27 posted on 03/17/2014 9:37:28 AM PDT by moovova
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To: SeekAndFind

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28 posted on 03/17/2014 9:38:52 AM PDT by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: Lou L

I recall a comparable incident some years back when an Iranian passenger plane was shot down. IIRC, the justification amounted to “sorry, but sucks to look like something you know we’d like to shoot down.” Details escape me; surely a K.o.O.K.S member can refresh my memory.


29 posted on 03/17/2014 9:39:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here is a full discussion on how the satellite pings work:

http://tmfassociates.com/blog/2014/03/15/understanding-satellite-pings/


30 posted on 03/17/2014 9:40:30 AM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I think it just simply got shot down by somebodies military over there.


31 posted on 03/17/2014 9:41:29 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; Usagi_yo

If they’re deliberately blowing doors off an airplane in flight, they’re not concerned about transponders continuing to function.

Kinda like trying shooting the driver of a bus, and still being concerned about removing the license plate.


32 posted on 03/17/2014 9:42:19 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: ctdonath2

Here it is;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655


33 posted on 03/17/2014 9:43:05 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Are there any areas of that plane a person can hide in before takeoff, such as the cargo hold or overhead luggage compartment, or even the pilot's rest room?

The facts all point to an intentional act. The pilot's wife moving out one day prior points to his possible state of mind and he might have felt he had nothing to live for with his children taken away by his wife, OR....

Are we sure his wife and 3 kids MOVED OUT, or were they KIDNAPPED BY TERRORISTS who ordered Zaharie to fly somewhere or else they'd all be killed???? Would Malaysia talk about this??? Probably NOT, for fear of jeopardizing the wife and kids' lives.

34 posted on 03/17/2014 9:46:14 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: killermosquito

There have been reports that the plane climbed to 45,000 feet. According to other posts on previous threads at this altitude the loss of air from the main cabin would put everyone to sleep in about 8 minutes. They would be dead from lack of O2 in about 15-20 minutes. Problem solved.


35 posted on 03/17/2014 9:46:18 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963 (=)
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To: killermosquito

Pitching the nose up rapidly can make it extremely difficult for passengers to get to cabin. Taking it to 45,000 ft. for only a few minutes can kill the passengers from depressurization.


36 posted on 03/17/2014 9:48:05 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: ctdonath2
deliberately blowing doors off an airplane in flight, they’re not concerned about transponders continuing to function.

Uh...the "cocpit door" is inside the plane, between the passengers and the pilots.

37 posted on 03/17/2014 9:55:09 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

cockpit


38 posted on 03/17/2014 9:55:35 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

My tinfoil hat theory.

With Russia in Crimea, Obama wanted to send a message to China. One of our laser weapons that is classified shot out the planes electronics. The plane simpky shut down and nosedived into the sea. That’s why the cell phones stopped working.

Go ahead China, make a move. We will destroy the electronics on every weapon you own.


39 posted on 03/17/2014 9:55:41 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: SeekAndFind; Jack Hydrazine

I truly wish there was this much concern about what happened when the Pentagon was hit or when Bldg 7 fell. Everyone appears to have their priorities in the wrong order. We’re losing America and everyone is worried about an foreign airliner full of Chinese.

Just my opinion, worth what you paid for it.


40 posted on 03/17/2014 10:16:44 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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