[Georgia Girl 2]

You shall not disagree! :-)

[pieceofthepuzzle]

Sounds like the left is ready for another inquisition. The irony of this is so thick that you couldn’t cut through it with a chain saw. The ‘defenders of science’ on the left are pushing the modern version of what happened to Giordano Bruno.

[Farmer Dean]

Well Larry,if CW2 starts-I’ll look for you on the field.

[familyop]

"You shall not disagree! :-)"

Great ironic message there. And yes, Torcello is a fascist. That's how the underlings of boss political constituents continue to get paid.

They claim to want lower pollution emissions. Give 'em what they're asking for, save money, become more self-sufficient and starve the beast. Here are some examples. There are also many ways to save for southern folks needing to cool off.

$2K Solar Space + Water Heating — One Simple DIY System
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/SpaceHeating/DHWplusSpace/Main.htm

Stealthy and very low cost without requiring much wood.

rocket stove mass heater
http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp

Some techs. are working on developing related, low cost stoves with mass and masonry heaters for those who need to pass inspections.

There are many modifications for the above and many more kinds of projects in the works. Sometimes, we should acknowledge a negative and ongoing political and economic reality and choose to adapt and overcome.

Look at this oven (dowload the manual).

On "cooling off," one Freeper painted his house with a special reflective paint, superinsulated the house and continued with other related projects. Sorry I haven't had time to do more study and experimentation for hot climates. It very seldom gets above 65 degrees here (but often lower than 30 below).

The more influential political folks want to start playing the "carbon" game. Make them pay us, instead (see Linux, open source legal successes).

We don't play with camping toys. We're not Walter Mitty. We don't mess around. Sanctions first.