Posted on 03/15/2014 7:34:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
This week, still missing 777 airliner that had two Muslim pilots and two Iranians with fake passports on board.
May 2nd, 2014 — anniversary of Navy Seal justice on Osama Bin Laden.
Al Quaeda and other Jihad-loving, murdering, fanatical terrorist groups love to carry out plots on anniversaries.
Connecting the dots??
No way. The transponder has to be manually shut off and in order to turn off the ACARS, you have to unscrew a panel and remove a fuse. We know both of these were turned off. That is deliberate.
If the aircraft had just "vented" slowly and killed everyone...these would have still worked.
Here is what happened.
The pilot, who just happened to have a Boeing 777 flight simulator in his home, planned this long ago. Why would a 777 pilot need to go through the expense of acquiring a flight simulator for home use unless he didn’t want anyone else to see what he was training for?
We now find out this flight had over a ton of gold on board as cargo.
What went down:
1.) The pilot switched off the tracking systems over the sea to make all think the plane went down en-route.
2.) He diverted towards the Andaman Islands where his cohorts were waiting.
3.) He depressurized the cabin and went up to 40,000 feet to kill all on board. He was prepared with an oxygen mask.
4.) He then flew below 300 feet to his destination.
No witnesses. No survivors - he thought that all would assume the plane went down along his planned route.
SOB murdered everyone on board to steal the gold.
A week later, the Malaysians wake up and decide to search the pilot’s home.
See post 69.
2000 additional gallons of fuel? Oy! This 777-200ER has a max range of 7,725 miles when fully fueled (310,000 lbs.) and at max payload and the winds are at its tail.
Fuel consumption might be around 18,000 lbs./hr. but that depends on the weight of the cargo and the number of seats filled. So an additional 13,700 lbs. of fuel would have taken them an extra 3/4 hour flying time?
What’s the point? At 45,000 feet, the atmosphere is too thin to force enough air into your lungs, even enriched with 02 in the mask, to keep a human alive. You must have a pressurized mask that covers your mouth and nose, and has sufficient differential pressure and PUSHES air into your lungs. The flight crew up front have that.
Rising to 45,000 feet, depressuring the plane? Effective way to kill everyone not in the flight deck with a mask.
FWIW, you can also freeze ‘em to death in the back as well. It’s often 60 degrees below zero outside at that altitude. Just sayin’
Freeze' em? Wouldn't that freeze people in the cockpit? And how long to kill on the depressurizing?
They could get a nuke from the NorKs, those wacky Pakis, or the Iranians.
The mullahs have a long history of barking up Israel’s tree.
Israel has a long history of threatening Iran’s nuclear
program, and attacking it (stuxnet). If Israel strikes Iran’s nuclear sites with ordnance, they will also use a lot of cutting-edge electronic warfare.
The missing plane carried 20 big-brained employees of Freescale Semiconductor, a Department of Defense contractor. They were doing classified work in cutting-edge electronic warfare.
Those 20 big brains from Freescale would be a tremendous asset for Iran’s electronic warfare program. If Iran could somehow capture those Fresscale employees, and debrief them, they would have quite an edge in any fight against Israel.
The possibility of a cabin Dump is valid. Kill ‘em all. What Blue Flag said is correct. Besides the pressure differential there is approximately 10 min of pax Oxygen
I don't believe the 40,000 ft per min figures, this is possibly radar induced figure.
...This a/c is on the ground and being repainted as we speak. Watch for an attack on Israel or the U.S. soon.
Could this plane have gotten as far as Pakistan or Iran? Could cargo be dumped in air?
I haven’t been following every thread on this(there are dozens), but has anyone mentioned that when the pilot(or co-pilot) acknowledged the ATC when notified he’d soon be entering Vietnamese airspace(I assume right before the transponder was turned off), that the ACARS system had already been disabled?
As you have said the ACARS communication system would need to be deactivated by unscrewing a panel and removing a fuse, so it seems likely that the pilot(or co-pilot) was already implementing his plan long before actually rerouting the plane.
OR the plane had already been hijacked by some passengers. However, to me that seems unlikely without cooperation from the pilot/copilot for a couple reasons. 1. As far as we know(SO FAR.. more info comes out by the hour) the plane didn’t deviate off course at all before or after the ACARS system was turned off(not until after the transponder was turned off 15 minutes later). 2. And also hijackers would’ve had to gain access to the cockpit without the pilots being able to get off any messages.
So it seems likely to me, the pilot or co-pilot or both were complicit. Maybe they also had help from crew members or passengers, but IMO one of the pilots or both were definitely involved.
Where did you hear that this flight had a VAL shipment of 2000 lbs. of gold on board?
See post #75. Yes, on fuel reserves they could have made it to either. Cargo dumped in the air? No.
I think you're on the right track with this and that the captain commandeered the B777. If theft was the motive, the remote airfields found on the westward flight track are intriguing. Whether theft of cargo or the aircraft itself is the goal, one would have to have a detailed plan and many accomplices. I'd be interested in whether the plane had reserve pilots aboard and whether the captain acted alone. Killing/incapacitating his FO is no small task and rather risky to such an operation.
Makes me think of FedEx Flight 750.
Gee, makes people who believe the plane is probably in Iran or Pakistan not look so silly anymore
The langoliers were after valuable info and technology on board along with 20 people who worked for the company that produced this technology.
That’s a big like!
Perhaps, but they don’t even need a nuke to cause terror. Nuke waste spread over hundreds of square miles would turn any large city into a ghost town overnight and terrorize millions.
To begin depressurizing the cabin.
dive down to 23,000 feet
If the oxygen masks popped out, the decent would be to make passengers believe the plane was going from 36K feet to a safe altitude.
and then climb back to 29,000 feet.
Everyone was dead and the plane could climb to cruising altitude and go where the pilot wanted to take it.
Exactly. I'd put money on it at this point. Even in the most far-flung but remotely possible scenarios (like remote control of the aircraft) there would have been some action on the flight crew's part to communicate distress and/or reassert control. If only one of the pilots is the culprit, he would have had to incapacitate the other(s). I'd say the captain is our man, with even odds that his FO was in on it too.
True but a nuke with some bang would do even more psychological damage.
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