Missing MH370: Investigators Conclude Plane Was Hijacked, AP Reports

Malaysia Star ^ | Saturday March 15, 2014

[nickcarraway]

According to the Associated Press, a Malaysian government official has confirmed that investigators have concluded that one of the pilots or someone else with flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370.

The official, who is involved in the investigation, says no motive has been established and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken.

AP is reporting that the official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to brief the media. The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory: “It is conclusive.”

The aircraft’s communication with the ground was severed under one hour into its flight on March 8 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

[John W]

He didn’t go into detail, he was asked a direct question as to that possibility and said no, no chance.

[AdmSmith]

Working runways

[nuconvert]

“There are three things he could have wanted:”

No, there’s at least one other - he could have wanted to commit suicide and have insurance go to his wife & family. That would explain why he turned the plane toward the Indian Ocean, because it’s much deeper and much less chance of being found anytime soon if at all.

[autumnraine]

Pilots wife and kids moved out of their house the day before the flight.

[Yosemitest]

"Iran has plenty of planes already."

And all of their planes can be tracked back to their ownership.
A stolen plan tracks back to the country/company of legal ownership.

[Yosemitest]

Who said anything about "continental" ?
It's all about "deny-ability" .

[Yosemitest]

"Are you familiar with ADS-B and CPDLC?"

Not too much.
I retired out of the military in 2000 and left the FAA (didn't buy out my military time) in 2006.
In a Air Traffic Control Supervisor's Course in 1987, I was exposed to a 2 hour demonstration on the "Future of ATC" where they showed a model of a radar scope position, and a 90 minuter video/power-point of something very similar to them.

I was NOT impressed.
"Pie in the Sky" we called it, due to the dependence on secondary radar tracking (read computer only).
Oh, it looked great and sounded great, until you start to have outages.
ADS-B or Automatic Dependent Surveillance - Broadcast would be okay, as long as you didn't give up primary radar.

A perfect example of WHY is

an "Air Traffic Control Kill" in 1987 at Kunsan AB, ROK, when a controller had his primary turned down too low and had no "grass" on his D-Brite with a very low ceiling.
He ASSUMED the flight of two F-16s on final, 1 mile in trail, had it's transponder code on the lead aircraft (which was actually on the second aircraft).
After a flight of 2 F-16s landed and was rolling out on the runway to exit, he assumed he had enough space between them and the flight on final that he could launch another flight of 2 F-16s for takeoff.
He put the flight of 2 F=16s into position and hold on the runway and was watching the flight on landing roll, waiting for them to exit the runway. Before the second one exited the runway, there was a loud explosion at the approach end of the runway where the 2 F-16s had been waiting for takeoff clearance.
The lead F-16 of the flight of 2 on final had broken out of the low ceiling in a flair and not seen the 2 F-16s on the runway waiting for takeoff clearance, and was on RAPCON's frequency and not Towers'.
Of course the second F-16 on final was sent around.

But the blood lesson here is NEVER GIVE UP YOUR PRIMARY RADAR and ALWAYS HAVE SOME "GRASS" SHOWING ON YOUR SCREEN.

Now CPDLC or Controller-Pilot Data-Link Communications may be useful for passing clearances, airfield information, weather warnings and other detailed instructions that are clearances delivery or ground control functions.
But in the air, real time instructions, I wouldn't depend on it.
Too many things can go wrong. in 1987 at Kunsan AB, ROK, when a controller had his primary turned down too low and had no

[Yosemitest]

From another thread:

Seems like a combination of three things may have caused him to snap:


• 1; One day before Flight 370, Zaharie was in the courtroom and witnessed the overturn of a succesful Appeal by his political hero for(allegedly trumped-up)charges of sodomy.
  Zaharie was outraged when he witnessed the Malaysian government-controlled High Court sentence said hero to 5 years in prison.
  
  
• 2; domestic problems coming to a boil with wife leaving Zaharie's house with his 3 kids
  
  
• 3; the approaching bankruptcy and closing down of Malaysian Airlines already brewing in his head.

Difficult to say just what Captain Zaharie had in mind when he took that outbound left turn,
but suicide was not his intention--
he rages to humiliate the present Government of Malaysia for ripping his beloved leader off the political chessboard.

[nuconvert]

Let’s say the Iranians can’t get rid of any identifying numbers or whatever (and you’ll have to explain why they couldn’t), why would they want to take the risk of p*ssing off the Chinese, when they’re a trade partner, and someone who backs them in the UN and sells them military planes?

[Yosemitest]

They don't know where all the numbers are.
The manufacture doesn't reveal all of them, just for the exact reason of being able to track down where they came from.

Muslim extremists live to piss off other people, and they could care less about the Chinese.

[nuconvert]

The IRI doesn’t care about Chinese people, but they DO care about the gov’t of China shutting them off and retaliating

[Yosemitest]

They want to rue the world, all of it, including the Chinese, and they don’t care who they have to kill ~ to get there.

[nuconvert]

You’re generalizing.

As I’ve said all along, the Iranians on the plane were not involved. And this idea that the IRI was, is just as wrong.

[Yosemitest]

And you don't generalize?
Your mind cannot conceive of the EVIL that works against us, IF you think Muslim Terrorists couldn't plan and execute this.

[nuconvert]

Our discussion isn’t about ‘muslim terrorists’. It’s about the 2 Iranians on the plane and specifically the IRI.

You need to know the enemy, and generalizing that they all operate the same way is wrong and can be dangerous.

[Yosemitest]

Where have I accused the 2 Iranians or the IRI ? You are settingh up a straws man argument, and are distracting from FACTS.

The FACT is that the last know and verifiable position of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was on

Jet Route P628 Northwest to (http://skyvector.com/ on World Hi Chart) Port Blair (VOPB) Navaid

Now that's a FACT.
You can't change it.
Whether the pilot and the copilot were in a conspiracy with the Iranians doesn't matter.
The FACT is, they were last observed northwest bound towards those two countries.

Here are moere details of that route.

Jet Route P628 Northwest to (http://skyvector.com/ on World Hi Chart) Port Blair (VOPB) Navaid
then W111 (272) and P628 (272) northwest to VATLA Way Point via P628 (173) to URKOK Way Point
to KAGUL to LARK to DORL (India) via JABALPUR Navaid
to RAHIM YAR KHAN Navaid

Now a more educated guessing

At RAHIM YAR KHAN navaid they probably changed airways and took a different jet route
G452 to ZAHEDAN to KERMAN Iran.

Now WHERE do you THINK they were going ~ on that Jet Route P628 Northwest bound?

[nuconvert]

Our discussion began when I asked you in post #124, why you speculated in your post #46 that the plane might go to Iran. And our discussion continued back & forth regarding Iran, until you decided to generalize and step away from specifically talking about Iran in your post #170.

SO you brought up the IRI originally in your speculation about using it for nukes, because they control the nukes in Iran. Therefore, no straw man.

btw - I think the plane is at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. We’ll see.....

[Yosemitest]

I said Iran was building a nuke and Pakistan already had the, but I didn't address the IRI.
That was your term.
Now WHY would you think the pilot would follow Jet routes to the Indian Ocean just to drop the Boeing 777 into the water?

[Yosemitest]

Also, if the 777 crashed into the water, it would set off the ELTs, and we received NO report of the ELTs.
The satellites lock onto the position of the ELTs on the third sweep, or within 3 seconds of the first sweep.
And, after a week now, no floating wreckage has been found.

So again, what makes you think the aircraft was crashed into the water.

[nuconvert]

The IRI & Iranian nukes are one in the same. It’s not a term, it’s the unfortunate current name given to the country, under the murdering mullahs.

Why do I think he dropped the plane in the Indian Ocean, vs say, the China Sea? Because he hoped it wouldn’t be found.