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To: ansel12
States don’t make the laws that I just brought up on abortion, marriage and immigration and employment at the federal level.

That's my point. Constitutionally, the feds have NO authority to interfere with abortion, marriage or employment (except federal employment). Your enemy is not libertarian, its the excesses of federal government and those who support its excesses whether in its current form or in its revised form.

70 posted on 03/14/2014 3:10:47 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew; ansel12
That's my point. Constitutionally, the feds have NO authority to interfere with abortion, marriage or employment (except federal employment). Your enemy is not libertarian, its the excesses of federal government and those who support its excesses whether in its current form or in its revised form.

You've shown right there the real difference between conservatives and libertarians, whether small "l" or big "L".

Conservatives put their morals and their stated principles above everything else, including the current political/governance enfrastructure. They realize that both Abortion and Gay Marriage rise to the level of being protected against and will work for constitutional amendments (which by the way by the very word is constitutional and exactly why the founders put this process in place) to solve the issue.

Libertarians on the other hand, will point to the current political/governance infrastructure and will state it is a state's rights issue effectively proving that their statements to the contrary, they really do not believe in the social issues.

I have not seen one post by those supporting Rand Paul and his states rights position and claiming to be either social conservatives or Christians who support the necessary constitutional amendments.

When the States Rights supporters, including Rand Paul, support vocally and sincerely constitutional amendments for both Abortion (Human Rights Amendment) and Gay Marriage, I'll believe they are serious and sincere about being social conservatives, and even Christians.

Until then, they are hypocrites.

Your Christianity comes before your political persuasion or it does not mean squat.
77 posted on 03/14/2014 3:33:56 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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