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I finally realized about a year or so ago what “natural born” and “natural born citizen” means...

I grew up in Eastern Virginia (quite a few years ago), where many say the local lingo is, or was, still very similar to the King’s English from the Revolution days.

I remember one kid yelling at another, saying, “Yo’ Momma’s a thief! Yo’ Daddy’s a thief! You a “natural born” thief!”.

(Yes, these were white children. People forget that Southerners, whether black or white, sometimes have a particular patois...)

So, “natural born” doesn’t mean where one was born, but the status of one’s parents. A “natural born citizen” would be someone whose parents are both citizens, then. Too bad all the highly paid lawyers and judges in DC and English professors have forgotten so much of our mother tongue...

FYI, Mark Levin had some good info about this, saying how we can blame John McCain and the RNC for Obama:

McCain wasn’t actually born at the US base in Panama. (US bases overseas are usually considered US territory, aiding the argument that one born on them is a citizen.) As the base hospital was being repaired, his mother had to go to downtown Panama City for the birth, making McCain’s birthplace Panama and not the US. Rather than letting the DNC make a big deal of this publicly during the 2008 campaign, McCain and the RNC privately agreed to not EVER make a big deal about Obama’s place of birth... Thank you, again, John McCain and the eGOP!

US bases overseas are usually considered US territory, aiding the argument that one born on them is a citizen.

Do you know of any anchor babies born on US bases abroad?

Because that would be the test as to whether a base is US territory.

McCain wasn’t actually born at the US base in Panama.

I was lead to believe he was and, in my ignorance, I now feel shame for having violated my oath and duty as a citizen by voting for an ineligible candidate.

As a Christian, I forgive him and his ego.

As an American, I see him as below contempt and complicit in our current destruction. In this context, forgiveness will need to follow justice and justice is nowhere in sight.

I will not make that mistake again, no matter which cult of personality is telling me it's okay.

Rationalizing violating the Constitution as the means to save it is the wrong sort of justification.

I remember one kid yelling at another, saying, “Yo’ Momma’s a thief! Yo’ Daddy’s a thief! You a “natural born” thief!”. (Yes, these were white children. People forget that Southerners, whether black or white, sometimes have a particular patois...) So, “natural born” doesn’t mean where one was born, but the status of one’s parents. A “natural born citizen” would be someone whose parents are both citizens, then. Too bad all the highly paid lawyers and judges in DC and English professors have forgotten so much of our mother tongue...

I was at a little league game, and this kid comes up to bat, and he looks like a major leaguer. He stands up there, stares the pitcher down, and hits the first pitch over the fence. The guy next to me says - "that kids never played before, and he just joined the team, he's a natural born hitter". I'm pretty sure he had never met the kids parents. /S

The phrase 'natural born', in the context you used it, I just used it, and the Constitution used it, is all the same. The hitter above was born with the innate ability to hit a baseball - he didn't need anyones help to be a good hitter, he was born with the ability. The thief in your story was born with the trait of being a thief, he didn't need anyone to help him become a thief. And the Citizen decribed in the Constitution is born a Citizen WITHOUT the need of anyone to help them.

Who is a Citizen without any help? There is 'natural law', and 'positive law'. Positive law is man made, natural law is the law that exists without man made law. When the founders spoke in the Declaration of Independance about 'inalienable rights' and being 'endowed by their Creator', they were speaking of natural law. A simple way to understand who is a natural born Citizen, is to strip away every piece of man made law, the Constitution, every act passed by Congress, or a State, and if someone would still be a Citizen, then they are a Citizen without the help or assistance of positive law, and therefore a Citizen through natural law, or a natural born Citizen.

There is only one situation where no positive law is required - because none is needed - and that is a child born in a coutry of two citizens of the country. That child is a citizen of the county according to natural law, and a natural born citizen.

US bases overseas are usually considered US territory, aiding the argument that one born on them is a citizen

If that were so then if a foreign national happened to give birth on a U.S. military base wouldn't that child be a citizen under the 14th Amendment? I don't think that's the case.

John McCain was indeed born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station’s “Family Hospital.” McCain’s mother Roberta, who was there at the time! has confirmed it.
The “birth certificate” which has the he was born in Colon, Panama is a fake.
The Coco Solo Naval Hospital was rebuiit and expanded several years after McCain’s birth.
The following link is to the only member of the media who has actually seen the McCain birth certificate:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html