SINGAPORE TODAY@sgify #MH370 This is latest and most accurate flight path and the reason why the search is now where it is. pic.twitter.com/yhvZEHqT9e
Posted on 03/13/2014 5:02:50 PM PDT by mandaladon
Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure.
The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m.
This indicates it may well have been a deliberate act, ABC News aviation consultant John Nance said.
U.S. investigators told ABC News that the two modes of communication were "systematically shut down." That means the U.S. team "is convinced that there was manual intervention," a source said, which means it was likely not an accident or catastrophic malfunction that took the plane out of the sky.
U.S. officials said earlier that they have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.
It's not clear what the indication was, but senior administration officials told ABC News the missing Malaysian flight continued to "ping" a satellite on an hourly basis after it lost contact with radar. The Boeing 777 jetliners are equipped with what is called the Airplane Health Management system in which they ping a satellite every hour. The number of pings would indicate how long the plane stayed aloft.
It's not clear, however, whether the satellite pings also indicate the plane's location.
The new information has greatly expanded the potential search area into the Indian Ocean.
(Excerpt) Read more at gma.yahoo.com ...
“Sooner or later some poor government or small group of government was going to have to make the call to shoot down an airliner. Nobody wants to be the first.”
I guess you don’t know about KAL flight 007 in 1983.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
You can read stories on the WSJ if you Go ogle the title of the article and then click the link.
“Looks like periodic ‘registration’ attempts or handshakes by an Inmarsat data terminal were taking place ... why it stopped, the aircraft may have finally run out of fuel, descended, etc. (RIP)...”
Or it landed and the A/C was shut down. I think the amount of time that elapsed after disappeared and then had the ACARS data stop was about four hours. From that we can determine approximately how far it flew and where it could have landed.
Keep in mind that some cell phones stayed on until some time Monday so the a/c did land somewhere.
JH, many of these cell phones operate under a different system than those in the US, according to another Freeper.
Whether there were “on” or not is not really settled.
How much different is cell phone technology in the Orient compared to America or Europe? Are they ahead or behind?
US phones are TDMA, and European and Asian phones are GSM.
Are there any cellphone techies that can explain why GSM phones can be called and/or still be online three days after an airplane supposedly crashes into the ocean?
Where are you going? Fuel load weight related.
The thing is..things were deliberately turned off so not a sudden accident..it the flew in a difference direction from planed so not just on auto pilot...and does not seem to have landed on land were it can be seen or take off again..so maybe the aircraft was ditches in the sea ....so the aircraft was not the point.... but something on the aircraft was
Whoever was flying when they got pinged in the Straits of Malacca, turned off the autopilot and descended to avoid radar. Tried hand flying got vertigo burned it in to the IO.
It is interesting that communications were broken at just about the time the plane left Malaysian airspace and the pilot told their ground control “all right, good night” - daughter who works for the FAA says that in this country ground control would have immediately tried to contact the plane if the transponders went off to see what happened (after cursing a bit and saying she was tired of people including me asking her why the FAA didn’t know where the plane was - “we don’t keep track of other people’s planes if they’re not in our airspace”) - I say Malaysia wouldn’t have noticed if the transponder went off if they thought they had handed the plane off to Vietnam, and Vietnam might not have noticed because they might have thought they just hadn’t received the plane yet - giving hijackers a bit more time to start a getaway before anyone got wise - either the plane is in the water due to “catastrophic failure” were communications went out, or it’s been landed somewhere at some remote site in southeast Asia - it would have hardly been hijacked and then deliberately crashed later - why not just do the job immediately if that were the purpose.....
I dunno, but it dawns on me: why would anybody steal a 777 when a 737 would probably do the job and be a lot easier to fly, land and take off again?
So Iran, Somalia, North Korea, Burma, even Pakistan....
As long as were thinking of all possibilities :
Isn’t it possible that it landed and refueled somewhere before heading to its final destination ?
Stopping for a fill up ties in with wtd’s “other complicit state” possibility.
Somewhere there is a map of airfields in the radius of what was thought to be the original fuel allotment
Wonder if they are all active commercial or if there are others that are privately owned ?
Fox and friends have posted a video on FB showing the flight path when it turned and what direction it was heading.
If the last leg of the flight line was extended it appears that northern Indonesia may have been the target
Can anyone capture that graphic ?
SINGAPORE TODAY@sgify #MH370 This is latest and most accurate flight path and the reason why the search is now where it is. pic.twitter.com/yhvZEHqT9e
Last night there was a 777 captain on Fox that said that turning off the system that reports aircraft systems condition is like logging off your computer.
A few keystrokes.
So several hours into the flight, the pilot happens to remember that turning off the transponders is not enough to make the flight invisible and logs off.
Or maybe clever enough to make everyone think he was ignorant of the fact he was still being tracked, so now he turns it off and changes course to his real destination...like the indian walking backwards.
Who knows?
But it took a huge amount of preplanning to pull this off so it is likely that the pilot did not forget anything.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/14/us-malaysia-airlines-india-idUSBREA2D0YK20140314
(Reuters) - Indian aircraft combed Andaman and Nicobar, made up of more than 500 mostly uninhabited islands, for signs of a missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner that evidence suggests was last headed towards the heavily forested archipelago.
Popular with tourists and anthropologists alike, the islands form India’s most isolated state. They are best known for dense rainforests, coral reefs and hunter-gatherer tribes who have long resisted contact with outsiders.
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