[driftdiver]

Folks that work on my team either change or find new jobs. Not sure about other companies.

[ourworldawry]

“As a business owner I’m amazed at how many people will sit and talk for long periods, be late, leave early and so on. yet I bet they’ll be the first to want over time.”

“Folks that work on my team either change or find new jobs. Not sure about other companies.”

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Sounds like you should already be doing that. Unless it is not YOUR ‘people’ that you describe in your first post.