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Trains Carrying Fracked Oil Could Pass Through More Bay Area Cities, Report Says
CBS 5 San Francisco ^
| 3/10/2014
Posted on 03/11/2014 1:53:52 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome
I am not totally convinced about the total safety of fracking even though it’s wonderful for the economy. But I don’t want to hear hysterical chicken little opinions that
just scream “Oh it’s killing Mother Earth” If I read something that challenges fracking, I want it to be a level headed opinion with scientific back up—not a screed as the global warming folks have been doing for years.
To: exDemMom
Actually, if they could load the oil on a barge and ship it to the refinery it would be a lot cheaper to transport and unload at the refinery. Consider this, the boat pulls up to a dock at the refinery, they hook up the pipe and pump it out. Next scenario is the 100 car tanker train pulls up to the refinery. Each tanker has to be hooked up and pumped out individually. That is 100 different hook ups and disconnects. Now, it may be more automated than that, but I have to imagine that there it much more labor involved in loading and unloading 100 tanker cars than there is 1 barge or supertanker. However, last I checked there were not to many rivers in North Dakota, Saskatchewan or Montana that a large tanker ship could transit. I do not believe that they can go that far up the Missouri.
To: Vendome
Marxists hate oil since it powers capitalism. Destruction of America is their goal, just look at California.
Pray America wakes up
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:46:56 AM PDT
by
bray
(The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
To: woodbutcher1963; Eric in the Ozarks
Is there barge traffic from Bismark to the Mississippi?
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:50:12 AM PDT
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thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: thackney
So how much of the oil is being shipped by barge? Is it more expensive/barrel to ship by this method than by rail?
OR, is it just that the refineries buying this oil are not built on waterways?
Or, are the barges that travel the Missouri not ocean worthy vessels? For example, JD Irving’s refinery in St Johns, New Brunswick is built on the water to load/accept tankers. It would seem to me that shipping by barge/vessel tanker would be more cost effective than shipping by railcar. Enlighten me please.
To: thackney
I don’t think barges go as far north as Sioux City.
To: woodbutcher1963
I don’t know the limit of barge traffic on the North end of the Missouri.
I’m asking for input from those more informed on the subject.
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posted on
03/11/2014 6:21:27 AM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: thackney
I will ask my customer outside of Williston.
To: Vendome; All
Now to convince San Fran Nan that "fracked oil" isn't a fossil fuel either. (Which it isn't actually)
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posted on
03/11/2014 10:06:29 AM PDT
by
Syncro
(So? -Andrew Breitbart [1969-2012] RIP King of The New Media)
To: Smokin' Joe
Idiot writer with an idiot agenda.
If it was truly "as flammable as gasoline", you'd never see it, 'cause we'd be burning it in the F-150, and cheap! The idiocy of this writer is proven, if one were to point out that there are large pipelines in the downtown area of Berkeley that carry aircraft fuel. Some of them are above ground in the open, where a wayward vehicle can easily leave the road and slam into them. The pipelines carry fuel from refineries to area airports.
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posted on
03/11/2014 10:55:19 AM PDT
by
roadcat
To: bray
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posted on
03/11/2014 7:12:27 PM PDT
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Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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