Posted on 03/10/2014 10:24:29 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
All the proof is right here. The first link will be to the first video showing it going down off Malaysia's coast. The second is to Flight Radar!
First Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JpbZZKqxy0
FlightRadar24.com http://www.flightradar24.com/2014-03-09/01:16/24x/17.67,110.32/7
The “tracks” on those websites are created by civilian receivers that transmit info of planes they detect. There’s a huge margin of error, and a plane’s reported “position” can jump by dozens, if not a hundred, miles as it moves from one coverage area to another, particularly when it crosses a coastline. Not to mention, that’s a privately-run website, not some “official source”. All that video demonstrates is the imprecision of the websites track-generator algorithm.
Proof of what?
Variations in course are a normal thing for these tracking sites. The aircraft was en route to Beijing and its course...until near the last, was in accordance with that.
On the night it happened, I heard one report that the transponders from the aircraft itself showed an abrupt departure from course, slowing of speed, and abrupt drop in altitude of several hundred feet in the few seconds before the transponder went dead altogether.
IMHO, this is indicative of a catastrophic failure and disintegration of the aircraft at speed and at high altitude (35,000 ft).
If that indeed occurred...we are still not sure at all why it occurred. My own opinion is that it is more likely a human induced cause, and perhaps terrorism.
But until they find the flight and voice recorders, and can see some of the debris, we will not know enough to be sure.
It’s sitting in a hangar at Wright-Patterson. I can’t say any more.
Dude.... 0 feet .. 10,000,feet, 32,000 feet.. 0 feet...
Dude...
I am assuming that was a regularly scheduled flight so lets look at the radar tracks from the previous days (weeks) and compare that to what we see here.
... that’s a privately-run website, not some “official source”.
I am amused by your faith in official source(s).
I am not a 777 pilot, but it appears the 777 has primary and backup generators on both engines, a generator of the APU and a RAT.
I have said it 100 times.
The website is only as good as the algorithm the software guy wrote.
My point is not that “official sources” are reliable, but that a site like FlightRadar, which is solely for entertainment, should not be given the kind of credibility it’s being given in that video. It’s not an authoritative source. Those sites do not get feeds from ATC, except over the US and then its on a 5-minute delay. The name “FlightRadar” is misleading, since it does not rely on radar in the first place.
Don’t get talked into playing cutthroat pinochle with that gray guy. I hear he’ll take you to the cleaners.
If the icon appears to be moving sideways, it doesn't mean the real airplane is moving sideways.
On the other hand, if the icon disappears suddenly altogether, what is really happening is dependent on the software driving the display. For example, when the aircraft is at around 400' height above the ground, the image disappears, but the actual aircraft just dropped "below the radar" on landing approach.
The image of a real air traffic display would be much more useful, but I doubt we will ever see that posted on the internet until long after the accident investigation is completed.
Here’s a good, but long, explanation of how sites like this actually work:
http://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works
I know. That’s why something like this cannot be a “smoking gun”. The guy obviously thinks he’s found proof of a conspiracy, when all he’s done is exposed the inaccuracy of civilian, for-entertainment-only, flight tracking websites.
The missing plane is B772 9M-MRO
He's comparing it to flight plan of aircraft 9M-MRMQ which flew same route as MH370 (same flight number) the NEXT day.
The day after aircraft # 9M-MRE flew that route.
See: FlightRadar24 (Full flight history for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370).
F*cker knows what you have in your hand before you know it
Flight radar is a combination of FAA data and civilian receivers. The FAA data is a world wide compilation consisting of commercial and most corporate aircraft. Civil aircraft are generally phasing into this database by requirements to upgrade or install for the first time more sophisticated transponders. The FAA data is updated about every 3 minutes as I recall.
Where the civilian transponder receivers fit in is primarily with civil aviation as these aircraft are not likely to have satellite communications. These receivers can fill the gaps so to speak for civil aircraft generally and to give more rapid updates in high traffic areas such as airport approaches. The receiver range can be 50 miles or so as I recall but varies quit a bit depending on hardware, antenna and geography.
In between receiving data updates, flight radar displays an estimated position based on speed and heading from the most recent data update. The data box in the sidebar off the map has the speed, heading, altitude, etc. if the most recent hard fix. You can see it change every few minutes.
That youtube video was intriguing. It showed the positional and flight deviations were radically different between the “live “ data and the archived data that I think he said was about 24 hours later. Why the changes?
March 8th statement from “Flightradar24” on their Facebook page:
The ADS-B transponder of an aircraft is transmitting data twice per second. FR24 saves data every 10-60 second depending on altitude. On cruising altitude data is normally saved once per 60 seconds. By analyzing all our databases and logs we have managed to recover about 2 signals per minute for the last 10 minutes.
The last location tracked by Flightradar24 is
Time UTC: 17:21:03
Lat: 6.97
Lon: 103.63
Alt: 35000
Speed: 471 knots
Heading: 40
Between 17:19 and 17:20 the aircraft was changing heading from 25 to 40 degrees, which is probably completely according to flight plan as MH370 on both 4 March and 8 March did the same at the same position. Last 2 signals are both showing that the aircraft is heading in direction 40 degrees.
Today there are reports in media that MH370 may have turned around. FR24 have not tracked this. This could have happened if the aircraft suddenly lost altitude as FR24 coverage in that area is limited to about 30000 feet.
FR24 have not tracked any emergency squawk alerts for flight MH370 before we lost coverage of the aircraft. Playback for flight MH370 is available on
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/mh370#2d81a27
If you have questions about how Flightradar24 works, please read
http://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works
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