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1 posted on 03/10/2014 8:31:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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told ya


2 posted on 03/10/2014 8:34:00 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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How silly. Who gives a crap what Putin does with Crimea? In no one’s wildest dreams a cause to fight over.


3 posted on 03/10/2014 8:34:49 PM PDT by montag813
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Adolf Hitler wrote Mein Kampf in the 1920's and almost no one took it seriously.
4 posted on 03/10/2014 8:35:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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I’m having trouble imagining Obama threatening nuclear war with his pen and phone.


5 posted on 03/10/2014 8:40:51 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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What’s Dugin’s FR screen name?


6 posted on 03/10/2014 8:41:04 PM PDT by Agog
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Only one problem, Russia, the Islamics already beat you to the field.

But thanks for playing.


8 posted on 03/10/2014 8:42:53 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Nose twisting or for real?


10 posted on 03/10/2014 8:50:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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There's just no way nuclear capabilities are used by either side, neither the Crimean Peninsula or the Ukraine are worth it from a U.S perspective.

The basis for Russia re-taking the Crimean Peninsula and likely large parts of the Ukraine (if not the entire Ukraine itself) was established just before the 2012 election when Obama telegraphed to Putin he'd "have more flexibility" once the election was over.

That means any protestations from the White Hut are for show only. Obama sold the Ukranians out. If that's not crystal clear to anyone who's been paying attention, they're in la-la land,

Now, what's the end game? Russia squeezes Europe by either limiting or cutting off natural gas exports from Russia. Sure that hurts Russia economically in the short run, the end game is about getting therimean Penninsula, likely the Ukraine and full control over gas to Europe while flexing Russian military muscle in Europe's back yard.

Europe in the meantime will start screaming for American Natural Gas to be exported, thus driving up prices here at home and globally, while Russia squeezes Europe via withholding gas.

Russia will then be all too happy to negotiate newer and HIGHER natural gas rate contracts to the Eurozone, only mildly undercutting America on price. Still, Europe will be paying much higher prices to Putin via locked in rates on new natural gas contracts, which was also part of Putin's end game.

Big winner: Russia. They have the Crimean Penninsula, likely the Ukraine, control over the natural gas delivery system going into Europe, and are getting much higher rates for their natural gas exports.

Loser: United States. Obama stacked the deck against us at the beginning.

12 posted on 03/10/2014 8:53:41 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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“American hegemony and dominance of the dollar as well as domination of Atlanticism, liberalism and the financial oligarchy is ended.”

That thought could just as easily have come from Barack Obama.

Whatever Obama does, the ultimate object is to weaken America. He has already shown his hand with removing missile defense from Eastern Europe, negotiating a nuclear weapons treaty to Putin’s advantage and allowing Russia to re-emerge in the Middle East. If Obama threatens Russia, then the ulterior purpose would be to strengthen Putin’s standing in both Russia and in Europe in order to hasten the demise of the “American hegemony”.

Obama sees his task as setting the US on course as a nation in decline and disintegration, with little influence outside its borders. He may have to role-play the US as the “bad guy” if necessary to rally European opinion against the US. Obama and the radical Left view all this as pay-back for the accumulated sins of the US and capitalism.


16 posted on 03/10/2014 8:55:30 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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Translation pitfall:

Novorussia, which literally means “New Russia” was the name for the East and South Ukraine when the Ukraine was part of Russia.


18 posted on 03/10/2014 9:03:06 PM PDT by dangus
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Dugin does not speak for Putin, any more than Pat Buchanan spoke for George W Bush.


20 posted on 03/10/2014 9:05:58 PM PDT by dangus
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Is this the same Robert Zubrin who is the head of the Mars Society?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Zubrin


23 posted on 03/10/2014 9:13:59 PM PDT by Bobalu (Happiness is a fast ISR)
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Whatever happens we can't allow our "domination of Atlanticism" to weaken!

When they return from their travels through the galaxy, we don't want the Atlanteans making their alliance with the Russkies!

33 posted on 03/10/2014 10:09:54 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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“7. Russia does not stop there, but carries activity into Europe, acting as the main element of the European Conservative Revolution.”

.....I hope so.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 5:58:10 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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