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Pushing polyamorous genetic-related babies
LifeSiteNews ^ | 3.10.14 | WesleyJSmith

Posted on 03/10/2014 6:51:24 PM PDT by Coleus

The bioethics movement grows ever more radical. In the reproductive field, many activists promote a near-absolute right to have a baby, the kind of baby we want, via any means we desire.  The UK’s John Harris is a major voice in utilitarian bioethics discourse, who believes that killing so-called human non persons is A-OK. He has now written in favor of creating children using a process known as IVG–in vitro gametes–using stem cells to create eggs and sperm, and then fertilizing via IVF. 

Harris extols the possibilities. For example, a single person could “self breed,” making a baby with only their own cells. Another use would be by same sex couples who could both be genetically related to a baby, rather than only one.   Once “safe,” Harris also would permit IVG for those in polyamorous ”sentimental relationships” (!!!) to create a baby genetically related to all participants. ​From “Multiplex Parenting,” published in the Journal of Medical Ethics:

IVG could permit instead a much more substantive sharing of genetic kinship, through what is in essence a generational shortcut. Imagine that four people in a relationship want to parent a child while being all genetically related to her. IVG would enable the following scenario: first, two embryos would be generated from either couple through IVF with either naturally or in vitro generated gametes. hESC lines would be then established from both embryos and differentiated into IVG to be used in a second round of IVF.

In other words, the couples create two embryos and then destroy them for their embryonic stem cells. These cells would then be used to create egg and sperm, which would be joined in IVF:

The resulting embryo would be genetically related to all four prospective parents, who would technically be the child’s genetic grandparents. In light of the developments we have anticipated above, several variations are possible over this scheme, including trios and same-sex partnerships, though in the case of trios the extent of inbreeding would need to be dealt with on a par with that outlined above for self-reproducers using the process to make a baby solely from your own .

Harris’s essay demonstrates that current radical reproduction proposals–we are already close to authorizing 3-parent embryos–would not ultimately be about allowing people with genetic diseases to procreate. Ameliorating health issues are as much pretext as purpose. The ultimate goal is enabling an anything goes culture in which extreme biotechnology is put to the use of fulfilling personal desires–especially those that shatter commonly denigrated ”traditional values.”

I have opined against permitting 3-parent IVF for safety and ethical reasons–and was ludicrously branded “anti-science for my trouble. Let me just add to what I have previously written that I don’t see how we can have a true “society” if the only commonality among us is ”anything goes.”  Yes, I suspect that Harris hopes to shock and pull the chains of supposed dinosaurs like yours truly.  But radicals such as Harris truly are deeply committed to remaking society along the lines that relativism’s creator Joseph Fletcher proposed.

If they succeed, it will lead to a dramatic increase in the social chaos that we are already experiencing. Reprinted with permission from National Review Online


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 3parentembryos; bioethics; ivf; ivg; johnharris; multiplexparenting; wesleyjsmith
it just gets worse.
1 posted on 03/10/2014 6:51:24 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

2 posted on 03/10/2014 6:55:20 PM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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Stop fretting about 3-parent embryos and get ready for “multiplex parenting”
3 posted on 03/10/2014 6:57:45 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

God Forbid!


4 posted on 03/10/2014 7:04:07 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Coleus
It takes a village after all.

In some bizzaro version of the future babies can be manufactured from strands of DNA. Then a cult of 1000 whackos can each have bits of their DNA stapled together to create a child that they all share genes with.

5 posted on 03/10/2014 7:19:03 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

There will be unintended consequences. God will not be mocked.


6 posted on 03/10/2014 7:40:03 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Coleus

God save us....


7 posted on 03/10/2014 7:59:26 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (2014: The Year of DEAD RINOS)
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To: ExCTCitizen
And the over arcing question of all...
Will Obamacare cover that??
8 posted on 03/10/2014 8:26:22 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Coleus

It’s technology. You can’t stop technology; you can only go with it or ban it. If it’s possible with technology, people’ll do it. That’s a given.

Don’t know what to do about that, myself.


9 posted on 03/10/2014 8:35:56 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: Coleus; Morgana; wagglebee; GeronL

This kind of this is going to FORCE the legalization of polygamy as much as anything will.

If a kid has 3 or 4 or more genetic parents, they will all have a claim as that kid will also have a birthright claim to inheritance, etc.


10 posted on 03/10/2014 8:41:18 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: GAFreedom

With “technology” the scientists keep wanting to make “something” that is close to human yet not human so they can do medical testing. By declaring “it” subhuman, they do not have to recognize basic human rights.


11 posted on 03/10/2014 8:42:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear; Revolting cat!
Then a cult of 1000 whackos can each have bits of their DNA stapled together to create a child that they all share genes with.

Nepotism in the workplace is going to become that much more common. You think "race" based discrimination is bad, just wait until those with the "code" give theirs special preferential treatment.

12 posted on 03/10/2014 8:44:03 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Bump


13 posted on 03/10/2014 8:52:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: a fool in paradise; GeronL

This is going to make one funny episode of South Park.


14 posted on 03/10/2014 9:22:45 PM PDT by Morgana (Wagglebee please come home we miss you!)
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To: Morgana

Figuring out which grandparent you favor has become much more complicated


15 posted on 03/10/2014 9:26:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: a fool in paradise

That’s a theory. I can’t say I’ve ever seen anyone admit to it, but it sure is plausible.


16 posted on 03/11/2014 7:20:12 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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