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To: Sherman Logan
Modern cars produce very little CO. It's a really unreliable way to kill yourself.

Any car, modern or not, will kill you if you sit in your garage with the engine running long enough.....I lost an uncle via that method.

29 posted on 03/06/2014 3:35:54 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

What about her mail? Were they just throwing it in a slot in the door? 6 years is a lot of junk mail.


36 posted on 03/06/2014 3:57:08 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: Hot Tabasco
It can be done. It's just a lot less reliable than it used to be. As I said.

Until the invention of catalytic converters, suicide has been committed by inhaling the exhaust fumes of a running car engine, particularly in an enclosed space such as a garage.[134][135] Before 1975, motor car exhaust contained 4–10% carbon monoxide, but newer cars have catalytic converters that eliminate over 99% of the carbon monoxide produced.[136] However, even cars with catalytic converters can produce substantial amounts of carbon monoxide if an idling car is left in an enclosed space such as a closed garage.[137] As carbon monoxide poisoning via car exhaust has become less of a suicide option, there has been an increase in new methods of carbon monoxide poisoning such as burning charcoal,[138] or fossil fuels, or by combining formic acid and sulfuric acid, within a confined space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning#Suicide

OTOH, it's remarkably easy to kill yourself accidentally with CO. Studies showed that a two-car garage, both large doors and a window on the other side open, with reach IDLH (Immediately Dangerous to Life and Health) concentrations in about 10 minutes. This if from operation of a 5 hp compressor.

When they say "well-ventilated," they mean well-ventilated.

50 posted on 03/06/2014 7:21:03 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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