Posted on 03/04/2014 8:10:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
The last time this happened republicans won the white house for 12 years.
“I’m conservative, but...”= seminar poster
What force empowers abortion and homosexual marriage? Why was it that before Roe v Wade, TWO THIRDS of the states outlawed abortion? Why is it that homosexuals have to go to court in order to have what they consider their "rights" respected?
Dennis Prager, government IS A FORCE. It isn't a philosophy, it isn't an intangible bundle of wishes, it isn't a theory, it isn't "just on paper." Government is a force.
Without the FORCE of government behind them, the homosexual AND abortion agendas would be DEAD IN THE WATER. Government, socially "involved" government, is the FORCE that has nourished and enabled the abortion and homosexual lobbies to override the majority of Americans who are obviously opposed to both; if they weren't opposed to abortion and the gay agenda, then government wouldn't need to step in and force Americans to accept abortion and homosexuality.
The best way to achieve a MORAL society, the best way to see America become MORE moral, more in keeping with the Judeo-Christian ethic, is to REDUCE government. Social conservatives fail to understand that, and that is Christian conservatives like me see them as righteous statists with Christian morality; they are ONLY "conservatives" if the word "conservative" is code for "Judeo-Christian morality." To make "conservative" code for "Judeo-Christian morality" is stupid and self-defeating.
Lack of government "prohibiting" gay marriage (an oxymoron, and outlawing gay marriage is like outlawing unicorns) and lack of government preventing abortion, is not the problem, Dennis!! Before government stepped in, Americans, who are on balance moral and righteous, REJECTED BOTH all on their own. It was ONLY when government stepped in to force the majority to surrender to both the gay and abortion lobbies, that this problem happened.
Reduce government, reduce the problem. Morality in American would THRIVE if the FORCE of government was neutered and reduced to the bare essentials FORMED ON THE JUDEO CHRISTIAN ETHIC as the Founders did at the start.
The problem is the fiscal liberals and social conservatives like Huckabee give social conservatives a bad name.
Note to the religious right - fiscal conservatives are your allies.
There is no religious right, nor middle, nor left.
What there was ... was the Republican Party brass who established a gravitational point in order to raise votes.
Yet with those votes, came the voters and their expression.
Now *that,* the RNC/Republican Party Hair Club for Men could not tolerate. In meetings, some Bible-thumpers were obstinate. The RP brass were indignant; how dare anybody challenge the RINO! Soon after, came a rise of conservative grass roots rebellion among *immigrants* particularly in Florida, who objected to the Clinton/Reno “progressives” sending young Elian back to Cuba.
Since then, the Money Talks RINO have been trying to distance themselves from grass roots conservatives -and- get as close to being Progressives with Money But for Lower Taxes for Themselves.
Unfortunately, that idea went to the wayside at the turn of the century when socialists like Wilson entered the scene. We have been sliding into the leftist big state abyss ever since.
Great post.
Note to the religious right - fiscal conservatives are your allies.
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Did you read the article? Fiscal conservatives WHO ARE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES are our allies.
Libertarians; small goverment idealists; fiscal only; RINO’s; etc.... can all go take a hike unless they are socially conservative.
Can one really be a fiscal conservative and reject social and moral values? I'm not so sure.
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Just a note. I don’t expect the stupid wing of social conservatives to agree.
Thank you kindly.
Resp2nd, the word "conserve" has two primary definitions.
One is to "protect from harm or decay." That is what "conserving" is under that definition.
The other is "to use something sparingly." That is what "conserving" is under that definition.
So as a self-described conservative, Responsibility2nd, WHICH kind of "conservative" are you? Are you one who seeks to use government to "protect" American culture "from harm and decay"?
OR are you the kind of "conservative" who seeks to "use [government] sparingly"?
Has Free Republic really been reduced to a level where social conservative values are openly attacked?
What a shame.
Silly post, it didn’t say anything, it was a weird way of just telling people to let abortion and gay marriage be, don’t vote to stop what is happening.
can all go take a hike unless they are socially conservative.
Social liberals already vote for the left, while social conservatives vote for small government and fiscal conservatism.
That is the reality of how the vote breaks down with Southern Baptists voting 80% conservative, while atheists vote 80% left.
The social liberals want to create a lie that is the opposite of the reality.
Since social liberalism makes it impossible for fiscal conservatism to exist, then fiscal conservatives have to fight social liberalism, or else they are destroying fiscal conservatism.
A big tent works for me. That said...Can we give the Losertarians to the green party?
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