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To: annalex
"I understand that the Crimea and Donetsk-Kharkiv are historical Russian areas. "

If “the people of Ukraine have the right to determine their own future”, Obama dixit , why did the US gave the opposition $5 Billion to use the force of arms to overthrow the freely-elected Ukrainian government ? New elections were set for early 2015. The US, and EU didn’t let them have elections, but funded an armed putsch.

The probable partition of Ukraine is yet to come


72 posted on 03/06/2014 10:26:20 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite
The probable partition of Ukraine is yet to come

Yes, possibly. My only corrective is that it is up to the people of Ukraine, not to linguists in armchairs to partition it, if it is to be partitioned at all. Further, the people's opinions change. Some Russian speakers joined the Maidan; some even died. Some Ukrainians have gotten fully Sovietized during the past near a hundred years of artificial selection. That some build a barricade and others cling to defend a Soviet-era idol. Their minds might change again. At this point Ukraine has a legitimate government in Kiev, and a constitution. All foreign troops need to be out, and the country needs to enter a period of calm, and then the Ukrainian people of all linguistic and ethnic background may decide what to do with themselves.

Also remember that the principle that each ethnicity needs its own internationally recognized border is itself questionable. During the Cold War one of the principles that was developed by both sides jointly was the principle of inviolability of borders, no matter how much someone does not like them. The USSR loved it: it meant, Brezhnev could keep Poland half way into Germany, keep "Kaliningrad" and keep Transcarpathia. Well, now this Cold-War principle means Ukraine gets to stay within the present borders and if it wants to partition it should do it as an internal matter.

why did the US gave the opposition $5 Billion to use the force of arms

We gave them $5 billion worth of old tires?

Seriously, Ukraine needs more aid. It is a large country that is broke.

76 posted on 03/07/2014 5:43:44 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Marguerite

.....”If “the people of Ukraine have the right to determine their own future”, Obama dixit , why did the US gave the opposition $5 Billion to use the force of arms to overthrow the freely-elected Ukrainian government ?.... New elections were set for early 2015. The US, and EU didn’t let them have elections, but funded an armed putsch”.....

That’s exactly right.


80 posted on 03/07/2014 12:07:56 PM PST by caww
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