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To: x_plus_one
How far will the moslem problem go before a breaking point? What about the Orthodox Church?

The "moslem problem" does not seem to concern the RF government at all, and the Moscow Patriarchate supports the government in all it does. The militant Muslims are treated as a case-by-case criminal phenomenon (much like Obama); the Muslim enclaves are bought off with generous budget outlays. The endless supply of low-wage central Asian workers in the big cities makes ordinary life intolerable for the plain folks, but the government refuses to even set up a vise regime. If you think our immigration policy is nuts, wait till you study RF's.

no protestant class in Russia

That is right, they are barely noticeable.

Will the Maidan movement topple Moscow from the inside

It will happen if and when the Russian people shake down their Soviet identity en masse. So far there is no evidence of that. Case in point: all these supposedly Russian patriots in Ukrainian lands bring red flags to their rallies and gather -- where else? -- in front of still surviving Lenin statues. The "nationalistic", -- for lack of better word rhetoric in RF is neo-Stalinist: "Kill the fascists", "Death to Banderovci". So is the level of their passion, -- they are barely awake and few people come to rallies. They are apathetic Sovs that wait for someone to fix their problems.

There were ethnic Russians in the Maidan. There are people of Russian origin that cheered it and are genuinely happy that at least the Ukies broke free. Also, a case can be made that Crimea perhaps needs an honest referendum and self-determination. But the statistical Russian looks like this:


Demonstration in Kharkiv (Kharkov) today, stopped in front of the city hall.

Observe: thin crowd, tired, past their prime looks. The Police Department overestimated them; a dozen cops would have been enough. One icon, one Soviet flag (inscribed: "USSR 2.0"), one Russian flag, two Ukrainian flags. A slogan: "Fascism won't pass". A photograph of the Berkut (Yanukovich's militarized police) inscribed "Berkut is the defenders of Ukraine from Fascists". Do they look like a Maidan material to you? They are still fighting WWII.

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Another demonstration:


In front of the German consulate in St. Petersburg. Feel the passion?

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46 posted on 03/04/2014 6:59:18 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
So much cash dollars given to NGO's to find proxy fighters.

Ukraine's new govt is expected to fall in line with the new Euro think but the moslem problem is just going to get worse. I can't visualize Ukraine opening its arms to southern moslem types at all unless they are forced to by laws made by the new regime.

53 posted on 03/05/2014 7:58:04 AM PST by x_plus_one (The harvest is great but the workers are few. Salman Rushdie is still in hiding.)
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