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To: Travis McGee
What was that about "so what?" and "nothing but a snap-shot in time"?
Now you went digging up old history. LoL!

There is no justification for Russia's military invasion of Ukraine.
There was no trouble there, even Putin had to admit that.

This is nothing but a geopolitical land grab because Putin could
get away with it - counting on the weak "simply not our problem"
wishful thinking that prevails with our leaders today.

Hitler had the exact same ideas as Putin with his land grabs -
and we saw how rolling-over led to the holocaust.

Ukraine doesn't exist in a box...
look at the example you are making for China, North Korea, Iran, etc.

I have a book for you:
Think & Grow Balls!: How To Shrink Your Fear & Enlarge Your Courage

139 posted on 03/02/2014 2:12:59 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Sigh....Crimea was Russian for over 200 years until 1954. In fact, a century ago during another war, it was referred to as "The Russian Crimea." Before the Russians, it belonged to the Ottoman Empire, now defunct. Before that it belonged to the Venetians, now defunct. Before that.....it NEVER belonged to Ukraine. Never. Not for a day.

Nikita Khrushchev literally gifted RUSSIAN Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 as a political payoff in order to secure their party leadership "vote" (sic) on his accession after Stalin's death. THAT is how RUSSIAN Crimea wound up as part of Ukraine.

Imagine if Eisenhower had "given" Long Island and NYC to Connecticut as part of a "deal" to secure CT's vote on some political deal, in 1954. THAT is how the Crimea (presto!) became part of Ukraine, for the first time in recorded history. Yet it never had more than a few % of ethnic Ukrainians living there, while its naval bases and seaports remained a key cog in RUSSIA's military posture.

Not to mention that the Ukrainians, post WW2, were involved in VICIOUS mass-murdering and mass-deporting between Ukraine and Poland, with atrocities on both sides. Their borders have shifted 100s of miles a few times a century. And we should start WW3 over Russia reasserting its sovereignty over RUSSIAN CRIMEA?

Not on my planet. No frackin' way, Berliner. RUSSIAN CRIMEA is way more Russian than Hawaii is American, and no matter what, we're not giving up Hawaii, let me tell you.

147 posted on 03/02/2014 6:52:28 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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