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To: A_perfect_lady

What Jesus wants is for us to choose righteousness. In fact, this includes his teaching that we should choose poverty. Thus, simply handing things of material value over to the poor, for the rest of their life so that they remain in poverty, is not what he wants. He cares about what’s in our heart, and the government forcing us at gunpoint to give poverty level alms to the poor is the opposite of what Jesus wants.

I’ll clarify for you what my point has been:

Atheism provides for no ultimate objective source of individual sovereignty.

The only version of individual sovereignty available to atheism is the subjective kind, which makes it no different, ultimately, from any form of liberalism.


80 posted on 03/04/2014 1:13:01 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith
What Jesus wants is for us to choose righteousness. In fact, this includes his teaching that we should choose poverty. Thus, simply handing things of material value over to the poor, for the rest of their life so that they remain in poverty, is not what he wants.

Well, that'll happen whether they are getting it from the government or a private charity. The more they are given, the more dependent they get, no matter WHERE they get it, so this doesn't really address the issue of public/private.

He cares about what’s in our heart, and the government forcing us at gunpoint to give poverty level alms to the poor is the opposite of what Jesus wants.

Again, it sounds like you think he said "give to the poor" because it's good for YOU, not because it's good for the poor. Like the poor exist so you can prove your goodness. Is that what you think?

I’ll clarify for you what my point has been: Atheism provides for no ultimate objective source of individual sovereignty.

You still haven't shown me what this opinion has to do with taxes and the poor. It seems like a completely different topic to me. If it isn't, can you show me the connection?

81 posted on 03/04/2014 1:48:36 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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