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To: A_perfect_lady

If you look at your posts, you will see you have nothing that shows Jesus wants us to pay taxes to help the poor.

You have shown that paying taxes has nothing to do with the commandment to love our neighbor or to help the poor.

The message of Jesus is that righteousness and coercion don’t mix—they always oppose each other.


78 posted on 03/04/2014 5:04:10 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith
Neither of us has shown anything, FRiend, that's the point. Jesus was not American. He had no concept of the separation of church and state, no concept of a government that doles out largess to the poor, no concept of a republic based on a Constitution run by officials democratically elected... he is pretty much irrelevant on a political level.

That's the point the atheist makes that started this whole debate: your messiah is not a poster boy for either Left or Right (although most of his quotes work better for them than for us.) If you want to take him as your personal guide in life, go ahead.

But don't bother trying to use anything about him to prove he would have opposed the government helping the poor. That suggests that the poor only exist to give you a chance to show your worthiness... that helping them is secondary to making sure you help them in the right spirit. I think it's pretty nonsensical to hold that Jesus would rather they go without than get help in a way you disapprove of.

Because that is what you are saying: Jesus would have rather they starved than you be coerced.

79 posted on 03/04/2014 6:07:37 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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