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Ukraine: Violent clashes in Kharkiv leave dozens injured (Eastern Ukraine Seceding)
Euronews ^ | 03/01/2014 | euronews

Posted on 03/01/2014 3:14:54 PM PST by BurningOak

Dozens of people have been hurt in clashes in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv. Violence reportedly broke out when pro-Russia activists stormed the regional government’s headquarters.

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They denounced the Kyiv authorities that have been installed - and called for reunification with Russia.

A Russian flag was later seen being raised.

(Excerpt) Read more at euronews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: putin; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; war; yuliatymoshenko
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This is big. Kharkiv is NOT Crimea, it is Eastern Ukraine on Russian border. The main government building has just been taken over by Russian protestors, a Russian flag is flying over the city.

Probably a provocation by Russian agents to manufacture excuse for bringing troops to Eastern Ukraine.

1 posted on 03/01/2014 3:14:54 PM PST by BurningOak
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To: BurningOak

More video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUbm3BsEHnk


2 posted on 03/01/2014 3:15:08 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Travis McGee

Prescient you are.


3 posted on 03/01/2014 3:16:10 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: BurningOak

I’m far from being up to speed on all this, but as far as I can tell, the majority in the eastern half of the country do indeed want to align with Russia. I see the country peacefully splitting in half pretty soon, and everyone being relatively happy about it.


4 posted on 03/01/2014 3:18:27 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: BurningOak

Pure provocation. There are nearly open borders, so thousands of Russians came to cause the commotion. Same thing happened in other Ukrainian cities. Some of Russians were caught.


5 posted on 03/01/2014 3:21:45 PM PST by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: BurningOak

>Probably a provocation by Russian agents

Or probably people who don’t see the need to burn their cities with car tires and tear it apart with civil war without a really good reason.


6 posted on 03/01/2014 3:21:46 PM PST by soycd
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To: Samogon

This is scripted from a very old playbook.


7 posted on 03/01/2014 3:27:35 PM PST by AU72
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To: soycd

“Or probably people who don’t see the need to burn their cities with car tires and tear it apart with civil war without a really good reason.”

Except they just did that exact thing. I suspect it is a mixture of genuine local sentiment and Russian agents provocateurs from across the border. At any rate, they are openly calling for a foreign invasion. The location, on Russian border, right next to the deploying Russian army is a little too convenient for just an accidental riot.


8 posted on 03/01/2014 3:41:43 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Cementjungle

Hello its Russian agents who are trying to redo the Georgian invasion playbook.
Are you happy tyrant Putin a KGB dictator is invading the Ukraine !


9 posted on 03/01/2014 3:57:03 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Cementjungle

Putin is now offering Russian passports to all Ukrainians who want them. Only requirement is that they speak Russian.

Ukraine is starting to split apart.

The Bandera Nazis will get Lviv.

Odessa wants to be independent of both Ukraine and Russia and want nothing to do with the Bandera Nazis and want them to leave.

Kherson, Nikolaev want to remain Ukraine and not be part of Russia, but also want nothing to do with the Bandera Nazis.

Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, and Kharkiv will leave Ukraine with Putin’s help and affiliate in some form with Russia.

Who knows what will happen to Kiev.


10 posted on 03/01/2014 3:59:49 PM PST by jimbo123
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Less than $4.3k to go!!

11 posted on 03/01/2014 4:03:45 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Cementjungle

That’s my prayer.


12 posted on 03/01/2014 4:08:08 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: BurningOak

Dang!


13 posted on 03/01/2014 4:18:36 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: jimbo123
The Bandera Nazis will get Lviv.

Odessa wants to be independent of both Ukraine and Russia and want nothing to do with the Bandera Nazis and want them to leave.

Kherson, Nikolaev want to remain Ukraine and not be part of Russia, but also want nothing to do with the Bandera Nazis.

Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, and Kharkiv will leave Ukraine with Putin’s help and affiliate in some form with Russia.

Who knows what will happen to Kiev.

You have described the breakup of Yugoslavia.

Odessa, Kherson, and Nikolaev will have to join forces; the era of city-states is long gone. This, however, will cut the Western Ukraine off from Black Sea, and that would be a serious problem... and that's where most of the violence is likely to occur. Eastern Ukraine and Crimea will be surrendered to Russia without much fight because the population there actively wants to join Russia.

14 posted on 03/01/2014 4:25:25 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Greysard
Odessa, Kherson, and Nikolaev will have to join forces; the era of city-states is long gone. This, however, will cut the Western Ukraine off from Black Sea, and that would be a serious problem... and that's where most of the violence is likely to occur.

Interesting. The Dneiper river runs to the Black Sea also.

15 posted on 03/01/2014 4:35:19 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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The Dneiper river runs to the Black Sea also.

The city of Kherson controls the exit into Black Sea. Those cities were not built in random places. Kherson is of extreme importance.

16 posted on 03/01/2014 4:48:42 PM PST by Greysard
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To: mac_truck

Any Russian takeover of Ukraine will be to control the entire length of the Dneiper - called the Nistru in Romanian.

That would also give Moscow a land bridge to Transnistria whose Slavs want to be incorporated into the Motherland.

A rump Ukrainian state will left to the north and the west of the Dnieper.

Of course assuming a political solution to the current crisis is not in the cards.


17 posted on 03/01/2014 4:56:08 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: BurningOak

Hitler partitioned parts of countries that were “German areas” too, how did that work out??


18 posted on 03/01/2014 5:02:25 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: BurningOak

And it’s not “Kharkiv” but Kharkov.

For all who know the history of WWII, the battle of Kharkov remains one of the most important in the defeat of the nazi Germany.

The 1st Battle of Kharkov so named by Wilhelm Keitel, was the 1941 tactical battle for the city of Kharkov during the final phase of Operation Barbarossa in 1941, when the Germans captured the city from the Red Army.

The final battle of Kharkov, in August 1943, was the biggest tanks battle of all times - more than 2600 tanks involved:
“Throughout the morning Soviet tanks worked their way forward in the hollows up to the southern edges of the cornfields, then made a mass dash across the road in full sight. “Das Reich”’s Panthers caught the leading waves of T-34’s with fierce defensive fire before they could reach our main battle line. Yet wave after wave followed, until Russian tanks flowed across in the protecting hollows and pushed forward into our battle positions.” - Wehrmart General Erhard Raus. Hitler ordered that the city had to be held “under all circumstanced”.
10,000 Germans were killed and 20,000 wounded.
The Red Army despite heavy losses, retook the city on August 23 1943.


19 posted on 03/01/2014 5:13:50 PM PST by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

Thank you for the history, very interesting.


20 posted on 03/01/2014 5:43:30 PM PST by BeadCounter (Let's see some backup for what you say.)
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