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Russian upper house approves use of force in Ukraine
CNN ^ | March 1, 2014 | Laura Smith-Spark. Diana Magnay and Ingrid Formanek

Posted on 03/01/2014 7:10:27 AM PST by maggief

Simferopol, Ukraine (CNN) -- [Breaking News Update, 10:02 a.m. ET] (CNN) -- Russia's upper house of parliament voted Saturday to approve the use of military force in Ukraine. The vote was unanimous.

[Original Story, published 9:23 a.m. ET]

(CNN) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin has asked the upper house of parliament for approval to send Russian troops into Ukraine's Crimea region to normalize the political situation there, the Kremlin said Saturday.

Due to the "extraordinary situation in Ukraine," Putin said, there are threats to the lives of Russian citizens and Russian military personnel based in the southern Crimean region.

It comes on the same day that the new pro-Russian leader of Crimea, Sergey Aksyonov, asked Putin for help in maintaining peace in the Black Sea peninsula -- where Russia has a major naval base at Sevastopol.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: happyhour; obamaukraine; putin; russia; russiaambassador; ukraine; ukrainecrisis; wwiii
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To: maggief

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/01/crimea-crisis-deepens-as-russia-and-ukraine-ready-forces-live-updates

5.14pm GMT

According to the BBC, Refat Chubarov, the head of the Crimean Tatar Majlis (assembly) says he is calling on Tatars to stay at home and not form resistance units. “Literally hours remain until catastrophe,” he said to the Gazprom-owned Russian radio station Ekho Moskvy. Tatars make up about 12 percent of Crimea’s population and have sided with the anti-Yanukovych protesters - now government - in Kiev.


81 posted on 03/01/2014 9:15:22 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

North up on fox now.


82 posted on 03/01/2014 9:15:22 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: goldstategop
The Russian Ambassador is going to get a dressing down from the country that had the sun set on its empire? Snort! The British overestimate their importance in the scheme of things.

Without its nukes, Russia would be just another developing country that hasn't figured out how to provide clean water to its citizens. Britain has a bigger economic output number than Russia, despite having less than half the population. Besides, Britain isn't just Britain - it's part of the ABCA group, which cumulatively has 11x Russia's GDP, despite only having 3x the population.

83 posted on 03/01/2014 9:15:26 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: maggief

“We’ll meet again.....don’t know where....don’t know when....”


84 posted on 03/01/2014 9:16:21 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: griswold3
Remind them we have a couple of ships in the Black Sea.

And one of those ships is out of commission due to having run aground and damaging it's propeller.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3127185/posts

The other ship is an amphibious command ship. How much damage do you think that one ship (or both, if the other one were in service) could do in the face of the Russian Army...or Navy?

You don't suppose Vlad has tasked a sub to keep an eye on them, do you? I'd be willing to bet he has.

Step out of line...fire one, fire two, and two ships go to Davy Jones' Locker.

Don't think he wouldn't authorize it.

85 posted on 03/01/2014 9:17:02 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: crosslink; kristinn

Check this out:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c62_1393673617

Russian S-400 AIR DEFENCE heading to UKRAINE


86 posted on 03/01/2014 9:17:02 AM PST by maggief
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To: goldstategop

This issue should have been addressed back in 1992, but Yeltsin punted.


87 posted on 03/01/2014 9:17:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: crosslink

Thanks, changed the channel when the Huckster was on.


88 posted on 03/01/2014 9:17:54 AM PST by maggief
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To: sunrise_sunset

Not too mention the aortic vein-like structure of natural gas lines running thru the Ukraine...flowing nat/gas out of Russia...and rubles back in. With an unfriendly fist strangling the flow of wealth producing gas out of Russia, their finances would crash.


89 posted on 03/01/2014 9:20:26 AM PST by moovova
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To: hoagy62
The other ship is an amphibious command ship. How much damage do you think that one ship (or both, if the other one were in service) could do in the face of the Russian Army...or Navy? You don't suppose Vlad has tasked a sub to keep an eye on them, do you? I'd be willing to bet he has. Step out of line...fire one, fire two, and two ships go to Davy Jones' Locker. Don't think he wouldn't authorize it.

Why would direct military intervention be necessary? Ukraine has a long common border with 5 NATO countries, through which an unlimited amount of supplies could be trucked. If they're prepared to fight, we should be prepared to supply them.

90 posted on 03/01/2014 9:21:58 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: maggief
The head of Russia's upper house of Parliament said in televised comments Saturday that she plans to ask Russian President Vladimir Putin to recall the Russian ambassador to the U.S
91 posted on 03/01/2014 9:24:11 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: sunrise_sunset
What exactly do people expect Obama to do ? Engage in a military confrontation with Russia, a nuclear power, in its own backyard ? NATO could barely handle Libya without the U.S.

Supply the Ukrainians with equipment.

92 posted on 03/01/2014 9:26:16 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: sunrise_sunset
You guys are such BS’ers. Criticize Obama without any concrete alternative for action. You’re like liberals with Bush.

Did you just out yourself?

93 posted on 03/01/2014 9:26:28 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: maggief

Wow great catch I will share this as this is big. Designed to hit our aircraft.

Base Statistics[edit]

Main characteristics of the «Triumph» [15]
Max target speed, km/s 4,8[8]
Target detection distance, km 600
The number of simultaneously engaged targets (full cast WRU) 36
The number of simultaneously guided missiles (full cast WRU) 72
Time of deployment from traveling to the state, min 5-10
Cast means of the system of combat readiness of the deployed state, min 3
Life means of the system to overhaul, h 10 000
Service life, years
ground facilities
anti-aircraft guided missiles

at least 20
15
Types of target:[18]

Aircraft
Strategic bombers such as the B1 Lancer, FB-111 and B-52
Electronic warfare airplanes such as the EF-111A and EA-6
Reconnaissance airplanes such as the TR-1
Early-warning radar airplanes such as the E3-A and E2-C
Fighter airplanes such as the F-15, F-16 and F-22
Stealth airplanes such as the B-2 and F-117A
Strategic cruise missiles such as the Tomahawk
Ballistic missiles (range up to 3500km[19]).


94 posted on 03/01/2014 9:26:31 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: rainee

Twitter:

MSNBC reports that Putin invading #Ukraine could someday be as big as Bridgegate


95 posted on 03/01/2014 9:26:55 AM PST by maggief
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To: goldstategop
This is Putin’s favorite pretext - a pro Moscow local leader asks for “fraternal assistance” and Moscow obliges. Today the Kremlin is doing it is not for Communist ideology but out of good fashioned national pride. And with a 70% approval rating in Russia, Putin can do whatever he wants coming off a very successful Olympics. That’s why he’s such a masterful politician.

The concern here has nothing to do with communism or Putin. It wouldn't matter if a monarchy were re-established in Russia and the Tsar enthroned. The annexation of foreign territory is the very definition of imperialism and that is what Russia doing right now.

96 posted on 03/01/2014 9:30:23 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: maggief

Nice to have a lot of citizens there so that you can invade once things get ugly, I suppose. In analogous situations, America would normally be asking its citizens to evacuate.


97 posted on 03/01/2014 9:30:54 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Blame Khrushchev for this.

Of course back then Khrushchev had no idea the Soviet Union would one day break up...But this issue should have been one of the very first things settled after the breakup of the Soviet Union, and Yeltsin was too drunk to deal with it.


98 posted on 03/01/2014 9:32:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator; All

The U.K. just issued a “GET THE HELL OUT NOW!” Travel Advisory for Crimea.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ukraine


99 posted on 03/01/2014 9:34:08 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Zhang Fei

It would be kind of like the Mexican army stepping into the US if things got hot for La Raza, if I understand this situation correctly.

The Ukraine has no love lost for Russia. The best we could hope is that Russians would leave the Ukraine behind. Doubt if Putin is just going to call them home though.


100 posted on 03/01/2014 9:34:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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