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Let Authority of 'Hidden Law' Rule in Arizona
Townhall.com ^ | February 28, 2014 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 02/28/2014 5:45:55 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/28/2014 5:45:55 AM PST by Kaslin
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The government can write all the laws they want. It doesn’t mean anyone will comply with all of them. In fact, they can fight back against the stupid ones by exploiting loopholes or being subversive. All laws written by the current administration should have to pass an acid test to check their motives and the reasons behind them, common sense, and if it violates natural law.


2 posted on 02/28/2014 5:53:47 AM PST by jsanders2001
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Didn’t list constitutional law as it flies under the flag of natural laws which is in essence what The Constitution is all about.


3 posted on 02/28/2014 5:56:22 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin
If I was black, I would feel horribly demeaned by having my race equivocated with perversion. One is truly genetic, the other a choice.

The whole Civil Rights comparison is invalid, imho.

4 posted on 02/28/2014 5:57:30 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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“Speaking of unreasonableness, according to ESPN’s Tony Kornheiser, if Arizona allows bakers to refuse to bake cakes for gay couples, gays may have to wear “yellow stars” like the Jews of Nazi Germany. It would be Jim Crow for gays according to, well, too many people to list.”

People who make that kind of comparison need their head bashed against a wall a few times. Not only is it completely retarded, it’s disrespectful as all get out.


5 posted on 02/28/2014 5:57:34 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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Quietly, the AZ legislature is now proposing a bill that would protect clergy and churches from being forced to marry people against their religious beliefs. And it may include a measure to protect government employees from acting against their faith as well.

This actually overlaps with previous federal efforts to protect pharmacists and other medical people from having to give abortifacients or perform abortions if it went against their beliefs; though Obamacare tried to sweep that law aside.


6 posted on 02/28/2014 6:00:25 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Kaslin
As society has grown more diverse (a good thing) and social trust has eroded (a bad thing),

I wonder if the author understands the inverse relationship that he stated in this sentence. Society can handle diversity, if it is allowed to cultivate naturally and all parties assimilate at their own pace. However, we have seen "diversity" by massive influxes of diverse cultures that none are willing to give up. This causes immense distrust and social animosity.

With any immigrant, they must realize that the society that they are leaving has failed them in at least one critical way, enough to want to abandon it for one that is superior to the one they left. With that realization, assimilation can then occur. Without it, they simply bring that failure to the new culture and bang, social distrust and eventual rifts in society.

7 posted on 02/28/2014 6:03:39 AM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Kaslin

As much as it pains me to say it, this is the inevitable consequence of the feel good Civil Rights Act of 1964. It served as a precedent that the government has the right to limit free association, albeit initially only in matters of in race, color, sex, or ethnic origin. But then in 1974 it was extended to age. Then in 1990 it was extended to those with “perceived disabilities”. See the pattern? Once you establish a legal precedent for the government to abrogate a God given right (the right of free association in this case), there is no stopping it, and in a non-Christian nation it will force us to share our lives, businesses, and provide our services to every perversion and morally repugnant thing imaginable.


8 posted on 02/28/2014 6:05:31 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: Kaslin
Gays are this (election) year's victim de jour.
Liberals will ride this horse all the way to election day. Then after the election with the LGBT votes safely in their back pocket, they will move on to the next victim on the menu.
9 posted on 02/28/2014 6:10:38 AM PST by Tupelo
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By my lights it's progress that gay activists and left-wingers are celebrating the institution of marriage as essential.

Marriage as a bundle of goodies from the government.

Bye Jonah.

10 posted on 02/28/2014 6:15:55 AM PST by Oratam
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How come you stopped right there and did not include the next sentence in the paragraph?


11 posted on 02/28/2014 6:28:22 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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“gays may have to wear “yellow stars” like the Jews of Nazi Germany.”

If they push it too far and demand sexual access to under
age children (NAMBLA) then yes that just might happen. They
tag sex offenders already. We are just now scrapping the
surface of just how vile homosexuality is and what the ultimate goal of the homosexual agenda is, open access
to children for play toys and recruitment.
You will not only have to bake them a cake and take their
picture but you will also have to let them date your under
age child.
They are already forcing acceptance of their perverted
lifestyle on people an the point of the governments gun,
who’s to say they wont have access to you kids at the point
of the same gun.


12 posted on 02/28/2014 6:29:22 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Kaslin

Bttt


13 posted on 02/28/2014 6:29:33 AM PST by Guenevere
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“Now lest you get the wrong impression, I am no opponent of gay marriage. I would have preferred a compromise on civil unions, but that ship sailed.”

Then Jonah Goldberg was a proponent until of course
“that ship sailed”. Which is just another way of saying
he’s a moderate and his morals and principals change
with the wind. It’s just a column, written for a buck.
No absolute conviction of principals, morals or ideals.
Goldberg is just a hack.


14 posted on 02/28/2014 6:38:48 AM PST by Slambat
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I’m still trying to figure out how somebody goes about proving their gay.

Can’t wait for the first divorce between a bi-sexual and a gay because the bi-sexual isn’t really gay ... according to gay folklore.

Or what happens when a CPS takes the children away from a gay couple and fosters them out? Will they exclude traditional couples in favor of gay foster parents?

Or the woman going for an abortion because she doesn’t want her child to be adopted by gay people.

Or explain the suicide rate of sex change operation recipients.


15 posted on 02/28/2014 6:41:50 AM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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Speaking of homosexuals:

Rink Employee May Have Fondled Feet Of More Than 200 Underage Boys

February 27, 2014 12:55 PM

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/02/27/northridge-roller-rink-employee-with-alleged-foot-fetish-arrested/


16 posted on 02/28/2014 6:44:48 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s natural law or common law, not hidden law


17 posted on 02/28/2014 6:45:57 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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18 posted on 02/28/2014 6:57:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RWB Patriot

People who make that kind of comparison need their head bashed against a wall a few times.

...yeah, that...or even worse, they should be made to host a sports talk on TV with Michael Wilbon...can we imagine anything more dire...?


19 posted on 02/28/2014 7:02:20 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: LambSlave

Once you establish a legal precedent for the government to abrogate a God given right (the right of free association in this case), there is no stopping it, and in a non-Christian nation it will force us to share our lives, businesses, and provide our services to every perversion and morally repugnant thing imaginable.

...you’ve identified where the next salvo will target...the concept of God-given rights itself...to wit, there are none, including free association, which in itself, will be deemed to have never existed...and anything short of open-armed embrace of the atheist community will be tantamount to criminality...

...and the ability of churches to act as functional entities within a community will be attacked, with all vigor...


20 posted on 02/28/2014 7:10:50 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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