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To: INVAR
Good discussion, even though we're not completely eye to eye on some key things. I'll have to keep this short, as I don't have all the time in the world tonight.

"Most of which has to do with the fact that most Conservatives are Producers and they have a living and/or businesses that take priority in their estimations."

Yep, I agree with you. But we're going to have to start moonlighting as Americans doing our civic duty, otherwise we're going to produce our way into slavery. We can either put in long hours now, to save our Republic for the next generation, or we can put in long hours as slaves in FEMA camps.

"We do not have the millions of dollars in war chest money that the Ruling Class Establishment has to run propaganda and smear campaigns against anyone who threatens them."

Sure we do...only we're investing those millions and billions in Apple, Microsoft, the Brazilian oil industry, the Chicom power grid, or any number of ways we think we can improve our portfolio by the end of this quarter. How 'bout we spend a few years investing our money in saving our Republic?

"It is more than self-evident to me that the Ruling Class in power holds those this people in utter contempt."

Okay, so letters, phone calls and town hall meetings aren't enough. Let's picket outside their local offices and get on the local evening news. Let's do it every freakin' day until "they" are forced to face us and answer to us. If not, we raise awareness, we raise funds, and we raise hell, and get them thrown out of office. They may have millions coming in from lobbyists and other crony capitalists, but that doesn't pull levers or cast ballots. It still begins and ends with us.

"We melted phone lines and got answering machines or no ability to reach our Reps at all. In a few minor cases they backed off what appeared to be a total cave - only to do it in piecemeal behind our backs a bit later."

Again, lace up the Reeboks, grab the signs, and picket their local offices. That puts the ball in a completely different court. Passersby see you, TV and radio news types, salivating over a juicy breaking news story, rush out to see what all the commotion is about, and next thing you know, Ma and Pa Kettle are coming out to join you on Day 2. If one thing doesn't work, try something else. But don't give up trying.

"They expect pushback from us against what they intend to do. That is why they have stockpiled BILLIONS of rounds of ammo and have militarized fed agencies and police with tanks, APS and other military hardware. The math of what is coming is not hard, and it has been intended to occur, because it's all part of the plan."

They may have billions of rounds of ammo, and MRAPs, drones, and so on, but they only have so many people to use that ammo and equipment. We surround them, and as history shows again and again, technology doesn't defeat numbers and a highly motivated enemy. The Brits, Soviets and us in Afghanistan. Germany in WW2. Us in Vietnam. In all those cases, armies with advanced gee-whiz weapons were defeated by motivated, numerically superior enemies, and so shall it be again...if that nightmare scenario comes to pass. I'd rather we pull out all the stops to see that it isn't necessary to jump straight to it.

"That is so 1990."

No, actually it's so 1787. But nothing's changed...We The People are still sovereign over ourselves, our families, our property, and our resources. The only reason any of that has changed is because we got lazy, then got scared, then got quiet.

"If they do not respect the rule of law or the Constitution now - what makes us think they are going to respect any further effort made to stop their encroachments on our rights?"

If they're removed from power, they can't encroach anymore, right? Contrary to what the defeatists would have us believe, we can still defeat the tyrants at the ballot box. But it's not going to be easy...we have to motivate and educate millions upon millions of would-be patriotic Americans who have lost faith in America. We have to show them that there are still leaders out here (not in Congress, but here in flyover country) they can trust and believe in.

Yeah, the lobbyists have money out the wazoo, and our so-called "leaders" love to wallow in it. But it's "their" money versus "our" feet, and donations don't pull levers.

Good discussion.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

176 posted on 02/27/2014 7:42:53 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: wku man
But we're going to have to start moonlighting as Americans doing our civic duty, otherwise we're going to produce our way into slavery. We can either put in long hours now, to save our Republic for the next generation, or we can put in long hours as slaves in FEMA camps.

Amen, I hear you and you are absolutely correct about working now to avoid what is being prepared for us. I think we might simply differ on what that entails.

Contrary to what the defeatists would have us believe, we can still defeat the tyrants at the ballot box.

This is where you and I are going to differ in belief and understanding at the moment.

I fully believe we saw our last 'honest' national election back in 2008. From here on out it's a neo-Soviet style propaganda show where the Ruling Class plays this charade and creates an illusion of choice for we little people in electing persons who will steer the government.

I would love to be wrong, but the damning aspect is that if I'm right - the time it took for folks like you to catch up to where I believe we have arrived- will have given the enemy further time to entrench themselves on the heights, dig in and reinforce their position.

Removing them will cost us beyond what we can now imagine we can bear, and most would rather deceive themselves into thinking that the next election will fix it.

There is not a single Marxist regime come into power that has ever left it's power willingly.

180 posted on 02/27/2014 10:08:44 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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