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To: wku man
Why is that delusional? Because we've never tried -- not just paid lip service, but really tried -- to make the system work?

Are you kidding me? Why did the TEA Party have to come into existence if we 'never really tried'?? How many Conservatives in Primaries have the Ruling Class sabotaged to ensure a Leftist or RINO got the spot?

How many laws has Obama violated? Where is ANY concerted opposition to his unConstitutional coalescence of power from those who are in authority to hold him to account??

As it became self-evident to the Founders that redressing grievances to the King and Parliament was futile because every attempt was met with repeated injury, it should be self-evident to us that fixing a corrupted and rigged system from within is not an option.

Mark Levin is absolutely correct when he says that we CANNOT work within this system any longer, because Washington will NEVER allow itself to be reformed - it will have to be forced to do so from OUTSIDE the system.

History also teaches this fact; tyrants and lawless regimes cannot be reformed from within systems they have taken over and corrupted for themselves. Rulers who make themselves above the law or arbiters of the law, will never permit themselves to submit to the law if it is the will of the people they rule.

138 posted on 02/27/2014 11:17:52 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR
"Why did the TEA Party have to come into existence if we 'never really tried'??"

Not really sure what your point is here. The Tea Party came into existence because up to that point, we hadn't been trying. The TP of '09 and '10 was a very rare example of our side being proactive, and refusing to be ignored. Too bad we simply went back to sleep after the 2010 elections, and squandered our momentum. I believe the only way to make the system work is to do exactly what the Tea Party did in '09 and '10, only this time, not stop...keep it rolling.

"How many Conservatives in Primaries have the Ruling Class sabotaged to ensure a Leftist or RINO got the spot?"

I'll answer your question with another question: why have we allowed the GOPe to sabotage the likes of Matt Bevin and Bryan Smith (ID-1)? You question assumes there's nothing we can do about it...well, that's why we're in the predicament we're in.

I spoke to the president of the local Tea Party, asking if they had any rallies planned, the likes of what we did back four-five years ago. He told me the TP had "evolved" into more of a "behind the scenes" role, vetting candidates and such. WTH? Is that how the Tea Party became the force it was? Hell no! It became the force it once was by being visible and vocal, and showing Ma and Pa Kettle at home that they weren't alone in their beliefs.

They -- we -- got Ma and Pa Kettle to join us on Tax Day '09, and Independence Day '09, and Election Day '10, and at a number of other rallies in between. Why? Because we weren't "behind the scenes"...we were out, telling the GOP and the Obammunists how it was going to be. People follow courage, and having courageous leaders is what builds movements. Of course, then the Obammunist lickspittle media began calling us racists, and we scurried away like mice, because we're so frightened by people saying bad tings about us, even our sworn enemies. So how courageous were we really? That's why the GOPe still runs the show...we got scared, shrank away into the shadows, and our followers went back to sleep.

"How many laws has Obama violated? Where is ANY concerted opposition to his unConstitutional coalescence of power from those who are in authority to hold him to account??"

Good question...here's the follow-up: what are we doing to make our so-called "leaders" do something about it? Yelling at O'Reilly? Pounding away on the keyboard, arguing with other FReepers? None of that is going to do any good. We have to pound the phones, picket their offices, get into arguments with RINOs and Leftists in the opinion pages and social media, and so on. If we stay meek and just expect "them" to do something, we might as well just go ahead and book passage to Belize.

"As it became self-evident to the Founders that redressing grievances to the King and Parliament was futile because every attempt was met with repeated injury, it should be self-evident to us that fixing a corrupted and rigged system from within is not an option."

So we don't "redress grievances"...we command our state legislatures tell DC to kiss off, that our states aren't following their unConstitutional dictates. We demand our Congresscritters step up and start holding the Obammunists accountable for their violations of the Constitution. We mobilize millions of PO'd Americans to back us up, and march with us to the steps of the 50 state capitols. Wouldn't you rather try standing up to DC before taking up arms? Wouldn't you rather be an American citizen, doing his civic duty, rather than being an American expat, bitching about how things are going back here while sitting in a beach chair in the Philippines?

"Mark Levin is absolutely correct when he says that we CANNOT work within this system any longer, because Washington will NEVER allow itself to be reformed - it will have to be forced to do so from OUTSIDE the system."

Huh?!?! What do you mean "outside the system"? WE ARE THE SYSTEM! Everything that "is" today, is there there only because we've allowed it to be, either by our action or, more often, our inaction. Ours is a system like none other before or since...we have the power to change things. We have the power to ignore the media and the GOPe, and nominate good people for office -- like Matt Bevin in KY and Bryan Smith here in Idaho. We have the power to jerk the chains of the people we elect, be it at the city, county, state house, Congress or White House. The only reason the GOPe is running the show is that we -- and apparently you and Levin as well -- have been convinced we're on the outside of the system. Hell no! WE ARE THE SYSTEM! Of course, the system doesn't work by sitting on our a**es...we have to get out and do a little community organizing of our own.

"History also teaches this fact; tyrants and lawless regimes cannot be reformed from within systems they have taken over and corrupted for themselves. Rulers who make themselves above the law or arbiters of the law, will never permit themselves to submit to the law if it is the will of the people they rule."

History has also never seen a Constitution like ours, a system of self-government like ours, nor has it ever seen bravery like we used to have in this country. Tyrants have never reformed in the past because the people never had the power to make them reform, or to remove them from office with extreme (political) prejudice.

Our system has not been corrupted...the people running it have been. Our system is just as good as it was on the day it was ratified in 1787...just We The People need to remember that we're in charge, not "them".

I've told this same thing to several people, and the die-hard Pubbies always answer with some variation on the "we're not wired that way...we don't get out and make public spectacles of ourselves" theme. Well, two things...first of all, yes we are. We did it in '09 and '10, and can do it again if we stop making lame excuses. Secondly, those who aren't "wired that way", call an electrician to rewire your spine. Get that way.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

143 posted on 02/27/2014 12:26:16 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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