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Can Obamacare Avoid a Consumer Rebellion?
National Journal ^
| 2/26/14
| Sam Baker
Posted on 02/26/2014 10:16:25 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
Insurers bet that low premiums would be enough to get customers to stomach narrow networks, but a new poll suggests they may have gotten it wrong.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; obamafail
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Good article...
To: SoFloFreeper; Admin Moderator
To: SoFloFreeper
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:21:45 AM PST
by
Eric in the Ozarks
("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
To: SoFloFreeper
they may have gotten it wrong They got it wrong with me. Just about anything that I may want to do, I probably won't when the government tries to tell me I must. My health insurance, or lack of it, is NONE of the federal government's business. Period.
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:22:32 AM PST
by
PapaNew
To: SoFloFreeper
5
posted on
02/26/2014 10:24:10 AM PST
by
JPG
(Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
To: SoFloFreeper
Many people will have an opportunity to show up in Washington DC on May 16, 2014 (American Spring) to express their frustrations and objections with Obamacare and the sad state of affairs in this country.
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:31:16 AM PST
by
Starboard
To: JPG
Under Obamacare you might be allowed to pick one of the three, but you won't necessarily get it.
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:36:55 AM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Eric in the Ozarks:" Rip it out by the roots."
A rebellion is in order , and necessary by "we the people ", even if not done by our 'Representatives '(?).
And the idiots who voted for it, without reading the bill, should all be replaced .
Those who voted for this bill are also EXEMPTED from being controlled by it, and they all have a better health plan available to them.
"They" have become the power "elites" over us 'the little people.'
This bill / law has had so many illegal and unconstitutional modifications , at least 27 known so far
that it is clearly "BAIT and SWITCH " , and unconstitutional !
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:37:28 AM PST
by
Tilted Irish Kilt
(Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
To: SoFloFreeper
With obamacare, you’re not really a consumer. Being a consumer implies that you have a choice. You’re actually just a subject.
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:37:52 AM PST
by
virgil
To: SoFloFreeper; All
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:38:05 AM PST
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: Mears
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:44:36 AM PST
by
Mears
To: SoFloFreeper
The three doctors that my family goes to for various medical needs have all either decided to quit in the very near future or are in the process of figuring out what they want to do career-wise with the rest of the lives. It is a mess out there. They are all having difficulty affording to stay in practice for several reasons. They are all experiencing a reduced number of patients. Although the physicians were all on the lists when their patients signed up after being forced to get new insurance, the doctors really weren't included after all. In addition, their payments have been decreased, while at the same time there are increased costs of having to pay for the database and employee time needed in order to supply the private medical information to the government. Their now former patients are very unhappy that their favorite doctors can not treat them, and every day these doctors have to deal with their patients' complaints, tears, and fears. The comment that I heard from all 3 is that, with Obamacare and all its changes, practicing medicine is no longer any fun.
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:46:27 AM PST
by
Nevadan
To: Tilted Irish Kilt
It’s not unconstitutional if Roberts says it is constitutional.
The top of the top of the heap sold us out. He should have resigned and moved to South America.
Why are the other justices quiet about this?
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:46:42 AM PST
by
Aria
( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
To: SoFloFreeper
Consumer?
yeah, if he's lucky...
To: SoFloFreeper
" ... Avoid a Consumer Rebellion ? "
It was designed and is constantly amended TO CREATE a Consumer Rebellion !
Many of us have said for many years that
Obama is doing this INTENTIONALLY. He using the old Soviet Plan from 1934 or earlier.
Only idiots and the evil voted for Obama, or ANY of the Democrats.
AND NOW, WE CAN ADD
"Establishment Republicans" TO THAT LIST, ALSO!
They've lied to us, constantly, and really are
"Collapsing the System". And now, these "Useful IDIOTS" who voted for them, are buying the lies that "Obamacare was designed to work." ?
It was designed to fail from the start.
THEN ... THEY GO TO THE
"SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM".
They've been sucking our wallets dry for over four years now on the "Obamacare" LIE.
AND NOW THEY WANT MORE TAXES ?
Our Founding Fathers would have hung them already!
Lets review:
Who was it that cut future funding for Medicare by $575 billion?
...the president and the Democratic Party successfully bamboozle voters... The 2012 election could turn on this falsehood.
The truth is that the Obama health law reduces future funding for Medicare by $575 billion over the next 10 years ...
Mr. Obama and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius frequently make that false claim.
Indeed, even Medicare's mailings to seniors repeat the claim
that reducing spending on Medicare will make it more financially secure for future years.
The fact is that Mr. Obama's law raids Medicare.
Who was it that moved Medicare Trust Funds out of the "trust box" and into the General Revenue, replacing them with Government I.O.U.s?
Who was it that expanded Medicare and Medicaid to cover many, many more people than it was originally designed to cover?
The History of Medicare
In 1965, the Social Security Act established both Medicare and Medicaid. Medicare was a responsibility of the Social Security Administration (SSA), while Federal assistance to the State Medicaid programs was administered by the Social and Rehabilitation Service (SRS). SSA and SRS were agencies in the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW). In 1977, the Health Care Financing Administration was created under HEW to effectively coordinate Medicare and Medicaid. In 1980 HEW was divided into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
The first U.S. President to propose a prepaid health insurance plan was Harry S. Truman [DEMOCRAT]. On November 19, 1945, in a special message to Congress, President Truman outlined a comprehensive, prepaid medical insurance plan for all people through the Social Security system. The plan included doctors and hospitals, and nursing, laboratory, and dental services; it was dubbed "National Health Insurance." Furthermore, medical insurance benefits for needy people were to be financed from Federal revenues.
Over the years, lawmakers narrowed the field of health insurance recipients largely to social security beneficiaries. A national survey found that only 56 percent of those 65 years of age or older had health insurance. President John F. Kennedy [DEMOCRAT] pressed legislators for health insurance for the aged. However, it wasn't until 1965 that President Lyndon B. Johnson signed H.R. 6675 (The Social Security Act of 1965; PL 89-97) to provide health insurance for the elderly and the poor.
On July 30, 1965, President Johnson signed the Medicare and Medicaid Bill (Title XVIII and Title XIX of the Social Security Act) in Independence, Missouri in the presence of former President Truman, who received the first Medicare card at the ceremony; Lady Bird Johnson, Vice-President Hubert Humphrey, and Mrs. Truman also were present. President Johnson remarked: "We marvel not simply at the passage of this Bill but that it took so many years to pass it."
Medicare extended health coverage to almost all Americans aged 65 or older. About 19 million beneficiaries enrolled in Medicare in the first year of the program. Medicaid provided access to health care services for certain low-income persons and expanded the existing Federal-State welfare structure that assisted the poor.
The 1972 Social Security Amendments expanded Medicare to provide coverage to two additional high risk groups disabled persons receiving cash benefits for 24 months under the social security program and persons suffering from end-stage renal disease.
...(continued at link)
So Democrats,
Sen Mark Kirk's
statement Thursday, Dec 1, 2011 ...
"There are 55 million Social Security beneficiaries that will see little or no extra cash from this 2012 tax holiday;
instead, the dedicated payroll contributions meant to pay for future benefits are being diverted from the Trust Fund
and replaced with Treasury debt that does not even have a AAA credit rating.
Social Security was designed to be independent and free from the danger of Congressional manipulation,
and maintaining the firewall between the Social Security Trust Fund and general government funding is the best way to maintain the solvency of this important program.
Neither bill protects the Social Security Trust Fund
so I voted no. "
It's not our fault that
DEMOCRATS raided the Social Security Trust Fund. Let's remember ...
Not ALL are to blame for the empty lock box.
It's the Democrats Communists.
Let's take a deeper look.
Okay, then the DEMOCRATS need to shut up!!!
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posted on
02/26/2014 10:52:49 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: SoFloFreeper
“We’re gonna’ charge you less for garbage”. That about it? Sheesh!
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posted on
02/26/2014 11:01:58 AM PST
by
TalBlack
(Evil doesn't have a day job.)
To: SoFloFreeper
There was no link provided.
Post it again with a link to the story
To: Aria
Aria:" Its not unconstitutional if Roberts says it is constitutional.."
Roberts approved the constitutionality of The ACA as a legal tax law,as it was legally passed by Congress ,before all these 27 known modifications .
Interestingly enough , the Government argued that it was not a tax during oral arguements
but the Supreme Court decission supported it only as a lawful tax, a point not aruged by the Government.
There are many arguements about this legislation and its source from 'Conference' modification,
current illegal and constant modifications without benefit of 'legislation' by Congress,
just by fiat by the Executive Branch .
But the fact remains : It is " BAIT and SWITCH "!, and our Congresscritters are not doing their job of representing the will of the People.
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posted on
02/26/2014 11:07:51 AM PST
by
Tilted Irish Kilt
(Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
To: Tilted Irish Kilt
I think I recall hearing that this is the exact same way the Supreme Court approved social security...administration claiming it wasn’t a tax but SCOTUS ruling it a tax and therefore ok.
We The People are just units of measure to these people.
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posted on
02/26/2014 11:18:39 AM PST
by
Aria
( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
To: SoFloFreeper
Notice in your picture how the points are ground off of the protesters’ shovel and pitchforks.
Just like we the people have had the pointy end of conservatism ground away by RINOs who have more in common with the Marxists.
How fitting. We need to re-sharpen our tools!
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posted on
02/26/2014 11:38:42 AM PST
by
Nervous Tick
(Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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