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Actor Adam Baldwin: If we accept same-sex ‘marriage’, why not let fathers marry sons for tax breaks?
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2-24-14 | Kirsten Andersen

Posted on 02/25/2014 7:44:37 PM PST by ReformationFan

Adam Baldwin, an actor best known for his performances in Full Metal Jacket, The Patriot and Firefly, outraged homosexual activists last week by questioning why marriage redefinition should not apply to single fathers who love their sons and want to enjoy all the tax benefits of marriage.

“What's wrong, now, with a father marrying his son for love & to avoid tax penalties?” Baldwin wrote on Twitter.

The actor has earned a spot on many liberal ‘enemies lists’ by using the micro-blogging site to share his outspokenly conservative opinions on pro-life, family and second amendment issues.

Baldwin received an avalanche of angry replies criticizing him for comparing homosexuality to incest. He replied: “Who said anything about ‘sex,’ H8rs?! This is a Liberty & ca$h deal! Love ≠ Sex.”

Summing up his detractors’ comments, he added, “Shorter H8rs: ‘Fathers & sons can't love each other absent sex acts!’ ~ #PolymorphousPerversity #SSM”

Baldwin says his comments were prompted by a statement from Matt Blevin, who is mounting a primary challenge against Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

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“If it’s all right to have same-sex marriages, why not define a marriage — because at the end of the day a lot of this ends up being taxes and who can visit who in the hospital and there’s other repressions and things that come with it — so a person may want to define themselves as being married to one of their children so that they can then in fact pass on certain things to that child financially and otherwise," Blevin told conservative radio host Janet Mefferd. “Where do you draw the line?”

Blevin and Baldwin are not the first to have asked the question. Last year, British actor Jeremy Irons drew fire for similar remarks about marriage redefinition and tax breaks, telling the Huffington Post, “Tax wise, it’s an interesting [question], because, you see, could a father not marry his son?”

When the interviewer accused Irons of comparing homosexuality with incest, Irons, like Baldwin, disagreed.

“It's not incest between men,” he said. “Incest is there to protect us from having inbreeding. But men don’t breed … so incest wouldn't cover that. But if that was so, if I wanted to pass on my estate without estate duties, I could marry my son and pass on my estate to him.”

After Irons’ comments were widely circulated online and mocked by liberal commentators, the actor posted an open letter on his official website addressing the interview. He denied criticism that he is “anti-gay,” saying instead he simply wanted to have an honest discussion about the potential unintended consequences of a redefinition of marriage.

“I was taking part in a short discussion around the practical meaning of Marriage, and how that institution might be altered by it becoming available to same-sex partners,” Irons wrote. “Perhaps rather too flippantly I flew the kite of an example of the legal quagmire that might occur if same sex marriage entered the statute books, by raising the possibility of future marriage between same sex family members for tax reasons, (incest being illegal primarily in order to prevent inbreeding, and therefore an irrelevance in non-reproductive relationships).”

He admitted his example was “mischievous,” but said it was “nonetheless valid.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adambaldwin; andersen; baldwin; culturewars; demagogicparty; homosexualagenda; incest; kirstenandersen; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; taxbreaks
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To: sten

His point has nothing to do with sex.


41 posted on 02/25/2014 8:25:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ReformationFan

“....he simply wanted to have an honest discussion about the potential unintended consequences of a redefinition of marriage.”

You simply CANNOT have an honest discussion about anything on the topic of homosexuality. You fall in line or you’re a ‘homophobe.’


42 posted on 02/25/2014 8:26:02 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Throw it back, they’re heterophobes.


43 posted on 02/25/2014 8:30:21 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: ReformationFan

Why not just give everyone a tax break and quit bastardizing marriage?


44 posted on 02/25/2014 8:32:11 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ReformationFan

I’m sure that much of the push towards legal same-sex “marriage” is about the financial benefits.

None of the judges imposing this on the American people has yet explained how homosexual relationships are equivalent to the biologically driven pair bonding of heterosexual couples that is meant to produce children.


45 posted on 02/25/2014 8:34:55 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: ReformationFan

Well I guess the fascists will make sure he never works again. They did that to James Woods.


46 posted on 02/25/2014 8:35:42 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Haven’t you heard? It’s only blacklisting when it happens to liberals. Conservatives have it comin’/sarc


47 posted on 02/25/2014 8:37:01 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Why the hell don’t we have a like button?

Awesome and co-opting for my own use....


48 posted on 02/25/2014 8:39:06 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Gene Eric

my point is.. those that object to his point are objecting due to pedophilia and incest being ‘detestable’

well... I find their behavior detestable.

what’s the difference?


49 posted on 02/25/2014 8:41:11 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: exDemMom

It is a LOT about the tax benefits. Too bad a conservative gay couple (I’m sure there are some out there) couldn’t come up with the idea that ALL people should get the marriage break. Of course then the courts would probably just rule in “fairness” to get rid of the tax break altogether.


50 posted on 02/25/2014 8:42:52 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
Seriously, if you actually get a tax break, why wouldn’t two hetero buddies marry, then declare they’re straight and marrying to screw the system?

There's no requirement that either party in a same-sex marriage needs to be homosexual, or that the marriage needs to be consummated. He's just scratching the surface when it comes to the estate planning and financial planning possibilities.

When money is involved, people can become very creative about interpreting laws in ways that have nothing to do with the intentions of the law's authors.

As recently as July of 2013, the US gov't was still paying out one pension form the Civil War!http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/07/03/one-civil-war-veterans-pension-remains-on-governments-payroll

51 posted on 02/25/2014 8:47:29 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: ReformationFan
Oh my...


52 posted on 02/25/2014 8:51:24 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: JoeDetweiler
Oh!! ADAM Baldwin....for a minute, I thought Alec had come to his senses...

I thought Alec Baldwin, too! After Alec's long piece the other day, I thought he is really going to be in hot water now with the homosexual groups saying this!

53 posted on 02/25/2014 8:56:59 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Gene Eric
Yep, government can screw anything up. I bet many decades back some do gooder types decided that government must get involved in marriage, you know to make sure us the unwashed did it right. They decided we needed those government marriage certificates so husband and wife could be proud that they met the government's standard. A priest, rabbi, or reverend (no they did not meet in a bar somewhere) saying you can kiss the bride just wasn't good enough. You needed more importantly, the thumbs up by some pasty face bureaucrat down at city hall. I would not be bold in speculating that the do gooders were church going folk back hundred years or so. They wanted government to get involved to make sure us sinners stayed on the straight and narrow. They thought the church just wasn't enough to keep us moral, so they got the government involved. Well hundred years later the law of unintended consequences has come down hard and led us to this current mess. And guess what, we will do it again with something else. That is get the government involved in people's personal lives, and pay the penalty for some monstrosity decades later.
54 posted on 02/25/2014 9:01:37 PM PST by gusty
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To: ReformationFan

I heard from a lesbian that to get tax benefits, an older lesbian will adopt a younger lesbian who is her lover. So, it is a very valid point.


55 posted on 02/25/2014 9:03:09 PM PST by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: sten

>> those that object to his point

“Those” being the homos that demand the sanctification of sodomy?


56 posted on 02/25/2014 9:03:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: gusty

I agree. Unfortunately, we have a minority view on the matter.


57 posted on 02/25/2014 9:04:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 21twelve

>> It is a LOT about the tax benefits.

Which argues for the elimination of the income tax. It is a chief mechanism of social engineering.


58 posted on 02/25/2014 9:06:28 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Gene Eric

Of course. That is why will make the same mistakes over and over again. As they say, everybody wants to be the man at the top.


59 posted on 02/25/2014 9:09:23 PM PST by gusty
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To: ReformationFan
Nice. You have inspired me to break out my Firefly collection.

Lately, I have been wondering if there isn't some fundamental, well established law--from common law, the Magna Carta, whatever--that could be used to bring the whole socialist house of cards (or a big part of it) tumbling down. Baldwin's idea is a baby step in that direction--using marriage as the wedge--but it doesn't suffice. I can't help but wonder if it's something so simple and straighforward that we cannot see it. But it would be great if someone could recall such a law and how it might be used to defeat our opponents. Yes, I know they operate extra-constitutionally all the time, but I am not talking about that. I'm talking about the silver bullet you forgot was in your pocket.

60 posted on 02/25/2014 9:27:48 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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