Posted on 02/22/2014 11:18:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
It pays to know somebody. It helps to be a member of a Church or a volunteer organization.
That being said, if your unemployment INSURANCE benefits run out, they run out. You are not being punished by anyone when that happens.
I have a $500 deductible on my insurance. When some gravel truck drops a rock that hits my windshield it generally costs about $350 to fix it. My insurance company is not punishing me if they tell me to fix it myself. If I want to punish my insurance company, I guess I could find someone who will do it for $600, but then I have to pony up $500 and then my rates go up.
Life just isn't fair.
OK, I'm all in for extending YOUR unemployment benefits, but not anyone else.
Now do you still feel like I'm punishing you by not supporting giving those benefits to those other people?
Exacatickly. We are in a slow-motion apocalypse. The crash of 2008 was a very big bump, but there will be many bumps on the way downhill. We have run out of credit--of all kinds.
One little gem of comfort from my church: Your only job through all of this is to continue to be kind, no matter what. Depressing in a way, but burden-lightening in another.
I pray for all freepers trying to make ends meet or looking for work. May God provide for His own.
James FalknerJuly 7, 2010 at 12:00 pm(28)
Last week in a legislative briefing Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D–CA) stoked the unemployment insurance (UI) debate by stating that unemployment checks are the fastest way to create jobs.
“There are few here that says “get off the couch and get a job”. That is easy for you to say. I remember having that attitude but not no more. Now I’m on the other side.”
It is part of the plan. Create more people who need the govt. who look upon the govt. for their daily bread, who eventually worship the govt. as their lord and savior.
You have already made the trip from conservative to moderate supporting the govt. safety net.
It will not be too much longer until you are a liberal democrat blaming Walmart, big business and Wall Street.
“...will it pay me just enough to support myself at a minimal level...”
This, I think, is the stumbling block
It’s all well and good to say: take any job.
That can work when you are young, etc. OK, or even really desperate.
And one stat I’d be interested to see is the North Carolina (for example) bankruptcy filings.
But, just in my own example, I probably could have gotten several jobs that would have NOT paid me enough to pay my mortgage, etc. and transportation to the job.
How can you take a job like that?
I’d be perfectly willing to work at Dunkin Donuts, but my mortgage lender wouldn’t be too happy about it.
All I can say is I never thought I’d be in this position, never in my darkest nightmares.
And yes, I blame Obama, but in all reality I must concede I think there may be other forces at work here.
Not diabolical forces but global economic forces.
But, it could be better than it is (North Korea/South Korea, East Germany/West Germany) and Obama is a HUGE part of that.
I know a lot of us had problems with Romney, but I still think it will prove a great tragedy that Obama was re-elected.
Here is an iron rule of reality: you can’t get blood from a stone.
“Isn’t unemployment insurance a state program?”
Yes, but if the state unemploment ins. program runs out of money, it can increase taxes or it can borrow from the federal govt. only the loans must be paid back when time improve which in Obama’s case is never.
“And please call McConnell, because he rolled right over over the debt ceiling.
This is how the R party gets it’s “nothing for the little guy” rep.
Sorry, but it’s true.”
Excuse me but paying more unemployment benefits AND simutaneously imposing the debt ceiling and cutting govt. programs ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE OF EACH OTHER.
I saw a medical billing job opening in Portland the other day. Also, have you looked in Seattle? Are you willing to move?
I get that, so now they’ve done the one they may as well do the other, that’s my point.
But do they do the one the plays in Peoria?
No, no, that they mightily resist.
Instead they seek, as always, to appeal to the NY Times editorial page.
Now, they *might* get some reciprocal support from Peoria, but they’ll get none from the Times.
Or the illegals, btw.
But to those groups they continue to pander.
“There are no jobs inside your computer. I looked.”
Well, look again, because it is the ONLY way to look for a job now.
I remember the Sunday NY Times used to have a big fat section every sunday, filled with want ads for jobs of all kinds, at every level
In my recent job search I bought the sunday Times and searched it page by page looking for the want ads.
2 pages (literally 2 pages) with print so small that if you really were interested in the ads you’d need a magnifying glass.
Mostly computer stuff.
If you haven’t looked for a job in a while, as I hadn’t for over 20 years, all I can say is you have no idea what it’s like.
It’s Craig’s List or nothing in my experience.
“You have already made the trip from conservative to moderate supporting the govt. safety net.”
This is BS. These are all programs that we’ve supported with our tax dollars for decades.
I think there is general agreement that there should be a safety net, or perhaps you’d prefer India.
The unkindliness here is disturbing.
I would say something else, but I won’t.
I meant that you should be able to pay your mortgage or rent, put very basic nutritious food on the table, transportation, pay basic utilities and buy those other things which we all need, such as clothing, toiletries and medications. But a recession such as this is not the time to be worrying about vacations, tuition, dining out, extravagant entertainment, parties, expensive hobbies, gift-giving and the like. Many people on Earth live rather well on less than we pay for car insurance in a month.
Whatever. Walmart & Wall Street had a HUGE role in putting us in this situation. Walmart for leading the charge on outsourcing, and Wall Street for the financial debacle (ongoing, by the way).
Many intelligent conservatives on this very site warned about this nearly a decade ago, and were ignored by the likes of you. And now, when you and your ilk have been thoroughly discredited, you harangue the innocent victims of what your stupid ideas have wrought?
Here's the deal: the "World" economy actually IS a zero-sum game; and we are being dragged down to the tune of probably 50-60% because people like you were too stupid to understand that simple FACT.
Heck, before I left the states 16 years ago, I was told that I was “overqualified”.. Still p!isses me off today :/ All I wanted back then was a stable job (and I would have stuck with it).
Looks like, if I go back now, I would not only be jobless, but homeless too :/
Are you suggesting that we should continue to dole out years and years of extended unemployment benefits?
Do you realize how many people take their sweet time finding just the right job that doesn’t involve a cut in pay because of it—and then by the time they realize they’re not going to be offered an equivalent position they are so long out of the workforce that they may not even get a lesser position in their old field?
Not only an expensive drag on the economy to fund such a program, but it creates a new class of indignant government dependents from the previously self-reliant.
Yes—and we’ve been funding her for years so her husband doesn’t have to kick in a few more dollars toward her support!
Exactly. I know someone—a highly-educated attorney—who is now long-termed unemployed. He complained for years about how unfair it all was because he was having to cut into his retirement savings. He couldn’t take a lesser-paying job because it wouldn’t support his ‘bills’, which reflected an upper-middle-class standard of living.
Then he eventually sold, then even stopped renting, his own apartment and has moved back in with family. After years like this he’s not only a dubious job prospect as an attorney, but in other lines of work as well. Still, he won’t take just a menial job or two to actually support himself.
His rage with the world has become huge, which can’t help his hiring either.
Part of the Obama Legacy.
I don’t want anyone here to get the wrong impression in what I’m about to say because this woman in the interview does seem to have a good attitude about looking for work, etc. But that is why she was chosen for this story in the first place.
This (the PBS video interview) is a very slick production piece that isn’t really about her. It’s about reasons for extending unemployment insurance compensation and uses her as the ‘showcase’.
Firstly, I watched the entire production (I call it a production because there was a carefully crafted political story here). WE MUST HAVE EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT!
I’ll go over her story a little and tell you what I saw. A woman who lives with a husband who has “her part of the bills to pay”. Husband on “light duty” because of an injury making $20,000 a year now as a truck driver, etc. Nice home in okay subdivision, nice furnishings. Her monthly bills for “her part” covers things like $132/mo home phone, $153.60/mo Cell phone, $74/mo cable and car insurance and vet bills plus and entry for $640/month child support(?).
Nice clothes (some kind of designer stuff by Denmark Impressions(?)- wore two different things), goes outside to get into a new Nissan and passes a truck and two SUVs in the driveway. All I can say is that Dave says you can cut some of this stuff out and make it easier to get by.
The rest of the story: Good Guys - Urban League for African Americans and their spiel, driving 45 minutes to get downtown is a financial burden. Bad Guy: Professor Dorfman who says long unemployment compensation is bad. He cites NC dropping UIC from 59 weeks to 17 (or like that) and the unemployment rate in NC went down from the 8s to the 6s. People took jobs they could get, not what they were holding out for.
The producer’s and the Urban League’s comeback? UNEMPLOYMENT IN NC ONLY WENT DOWN BECAUSE SO MANY GAVE UP LOOKING FOR WORK. Read that again! The unemployment rate, according to them now ONLY WENT DOWN BECAUSE SO MANY GAVE UP LOOKING FOR WORK! [Never mind that this happened ONLY when NC cut the length of time for UIC] Imagine that!
Do we hear Obama and his ilk with this excuse for the national employment numbers? Hell no! Obama CREATED jobs! It is ironic to me the reason they give for NC isn’t correct for the cited NC rate, but IS correct for the national rate. Damned funny if you ask me.
These people actually do want their cake and to be able to eat it too! - regardless of the lady (who I’m believe is eligible for SNAP, EITC - her husband anyway, and other stuff they don’t dare mention here in this production).
PBS and the Urban League spent a lot of time and effort on this production - carefully crafted, excellent production quality, and a careful choice of a ‘candidate’ who didn’t fit their view of a conservative’s idea of a welfare cheat. The goal here is push production - move attitudes towards UIC extension towards LONGER and LONGER terms.
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