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Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin If Obama Were a Dictator, She’d Be In Gitmo
PoliticusUSA ^ | February 22, 2014 | Sarah Jones

Posted on 02/22/2014 2:15:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

So we have reached the aporia of the Right’s main argument against President Obama, wherein their arguments are deconstructing themselves via their own rhetoric undermining their claims.

Republicans call the President a dictator and say his boot is on their necks, he is stomping on the Constitution, he is an “imperial” president. And yet all of them remain free to say these things in public, on TV. There isn’t even any backlash to speak of.

Leading this charge is the still bitter Sarah Palin, whose behavior post 2008 loss makes John McCain’s look magnanimous and mature. Palin posited that after Obama left Americans for “destroyed”, the press finally woke up. Palin seems to miss the fact that she is still free after all of these many years of traitor-adjacent behavior to write and speak whatever she pleases, no matter how egregious, including her attempt to portray criticism of her “speech” (her gun sights over Democratic districts prior to the Arizona massacre) as “blood libel”.

No brownshirts have come for Palin. Yet she wrote this on her Facebook page, as if Obama were Hitler, just as elected Republicans across the country inaccurately portray him:

"What? Lamestream calls for empathy, even outrage, for a First Amendment violation that’s on par with all the abuse we’ve brought to your attention as Obama stomps on our Constitution. You’ve IGNORED us, you’ve marginalized us, you’ve left us for “destroyed.” But when Obama’s boot is on YOUR neck you finally wake the h*ll up and cry foul? Good Lord."

Then she linked to this Breitbart article bemoaning the loss of freedom under this President, as if George W. Bush’s “free speech zones” and silencing of the Dixie Chicks had never happened.

They were for it before they were against it, apparently. (According to the very conservative ACLJ’s press release, the press actually had a “significant” First Amendment and free press victory today as the Obama administration pulled the plug on a newsroom “monitoring” system – aka, studying “perceived station bias.”, a thing conservatives are very against, as you might imagine.)

A dictator would never have allowed Sarah Palin to attack him while on foreign soil, during a time of war and while the country faced a huge financial crisis, no less. This is why the foreign press called Sarah Palin a traitor, while our own press continues to give her and her fellow Republicans (it says a lot about the party that Palin is no longer the most outrageous attack dog) access as if the things she says are not outrageous.

“And now she turns not only against the fibre and backbone of her country, but against its democratically elected President… “

That was in 2010, and Sarah Palin and the GOP have hardly let up since then.

While the right gets Martin Bashir fired for his suggestion that Sarah Palin might not think policy issues were just like slavery if she actually knew anything about slavery, when the Dixie Chicks said they were ashamed that Bush was from Texas, their music was shut out by mainstream outlets around the country:

"Music superstars the Dixie Chicks are finding out that criticizing President Bush’s plans for war in Iraq can cost you air play, big time."

The Right has a very selective sense of free speech and free press.

And while the finer points of their failed arguments can be endlessly mocked, it really comes down to one thing. If Obama really were the dictator they accuse him of being, none of them would be free to continue accusing him of being a dictator.

If you are allowed to have public discussions about executive branch decisions with which you disagree, and you are not being shunned for it or fired over it, then you are most likely not living under a dictator.

Living under a dictator would be more like it was under George W. Bush, when even “liberal Hollywood” shrank in fear of being accused of being unpatriotic. So they turned their backs on Michael Moore’s March 23, 2003 Oscar speech — and on film sets in the weeks that followed, hard core liberals expressed disdain for the disrespect for our president, calling Moore’s behavior uncivilized (public shaming is a good silencer). I was there.

What was Moore’s crime? He spoke out against the war Bush had just started, just days prior. This is what he said that caused such a disruption — compare this to what Republicans say every single day about a President who did NOT lead us into a war on false pretenses. Moore referenced the way Bush was not really elected (a fact, he was appointed by the United States Supreme Court), and that the war was based on fictitious reasons (also true):

"We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious President.

We — We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.
 Whether it’s the fictition of duct tape or the fictitious [sic] of orange alerts, we are against this war, Mr. Bush.

Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you.

And any time you’ve got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much."

So it’s odd that Republicans keep accusing President Obama of being exactly what George W. Bush was in reality — a fake president, with dictator-esque tendencies. Under Bush, this country edged closer to a state of fascism, in which the people were kept in line through constant fear. People were arrested for wearing t-shirts that criticized Bush. ABC reported:

The Bush administration has agreed to pay $80,000 to a husband and wife who were ejected from a presidential rally because of their anti-Bush T-shirts. The settlement ends a suit brought by a Texas couple and the American Civil Liberties Union, claiming the couple’s First Amendment rights were violated when they were arrested and removed from a taxpayer-funded event featuring President Bush because their shirts read “Love America, Hate Bush” and “Regime Change Starts at Home.”

From terror alert levels to arrests for wearing the wrong t-shirt near the President to having your business ruined because you spoke out against what turned out to be an illegal war, things were bleak under Bush.

It turns out that Moore was correct. A boot on your neck? PBS reported, “And Moore was booed, stalked and threatened for it. He had to get a security detail to protect him from the death threats (some of which were encouraged by the media), and he claims that Homeland Security scratched up his Oscar at the airport on the way home.”

When you are openly criticizing the President of the United States and not too subtly trying to incite an overthrow of the government because you are still bitter that you lost to him, and no one comes to arrest you, the President is not a dictator. When you are still invited to have a reality TV show funded in part by the taxpayers of this country, the President is not a dictator. When you are still deemed to be civilized company and not being shunned for daring to suggest that you oppose something the President is doing, the President is not a dictator.

That is one fact of which you can be sure: President Obama is not a dictator and he is not silencing dissent. The proof is the fact that Sarah Palin is not in Gitmo. She is, in fact, making a living off of taxpayer money that Obama could easily put a stop to if he were that kind of petty, thin-skinned dictator — were he a Chris Christie type, for example, or a Nixon, or a Bush.

Note: For the fact challenged who got Martin Bashir fired, I did not say Sarah Palin should be in Gitmo. I am against Gitmo, just as Bashir is against slavery.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; michaelmoore; obama; palin; sarahpalin; stupid
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To: cincinnati65

I wouldn’t be too hard on her. She is probably just following a script given to her by the administration.


81 posted on 02/22/2014 3:27:34 PM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
An important aspect of modern day Liberalism/neo Communism is its lack of logic or any rational form of reasoning. This nonsense that we're not living under a dictatorship because Sarah Palin and say Rush Limbaugh are not in jail (they tried very hard with Rush) sounds like a reverse example of the logical fallacy of misleading vividness. Because a particular example of dictatorship did not happen; ergo, Obama is not a dictator. It also seems like the logical fallacy of appeal to ridicule; e.g., you fascist neanderthals say we are a dictatorship? Why isn't Sarah Palin in gitmo (what about what is happening to Denesh D'Souza)?

This Liberal habit of being illogical may have started with Karl Marx, as detailed in the chapter on Das Kapital of the largly unknown book, Karl Mzrx, Racist.

82 posted on 02/22/2014 3:28:54 PM PST by Stepan12 (Sptar)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin there is lots of space in Liberal heads for her to occupy and she’s doing a great job of it.


83 posted on 02/22/2014 3:29:22 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (2016 an election or a coronation of a Queen?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; onyx; kitkat
This Author Needs to Stop Taking Stupid Pills.

Communism or Progressive Towards Socialism Always ends in several different Mass Graves, even for useful Idiots like the author.

84 posted on 02/22/2014 3:29:34 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This.

Knockout Games.

'Nuff said.

85 posted on 02/22/2014 3:30:53 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is my reply, probably wont get past the censors...

Not possible since Dear Leader, the Clown Prince, CLOSED Gitmo like he said he would, amiright?

Why would Dear Leader want to make a public spectacle of imprisoning his critics when he could just use the IRS, FBI, NSA, etc. to harass them into quiet submission?

By the way, Sarah, this is a great article. Your Obama Regime FCC minder did a great job editing. The regime will surely notice your mindless and zealous defense of the administration if you keep it up. Maybe you will get the Jay Carney Honorary Obfuscation Award.

86 posted on 02/22/2014 3:31:30 PM PST by abishai (Hello Jane!!! I miss you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Republicans call the President a dictator and say his boot is on their necks, he is stomping on the Constitution, he is an “imperial” president. And yet all of them remain free to say these things in public, on TV. There isn’t even any backlash to speak of.


That’s as far as I could get without vomiting.

Breitbart.


87 posted on 02/22/2014 3:32:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Darren McCarty

“Maybe it’s damn time to take some power away from the Executive Branch.”

Completely agree. Let’s give Congress control of the 2ndMarDiv so that when the liberal American morons install a dictator, Congress can send in a few battalions up I-95 to sweep the DC streets with mortars and tanks.


88 posted on 02/22/2014 3:37:10 PM PST by sergeantdave (Chase the worm to bottom of the Tequila bottle)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Ya gotta read the few comments at the link! They’re a hoot!

I've now left two and neither one has been approved for posting.......LOL!

89 posted on 02/22/2014 3:41:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is a budding dictator who hasn’t been able to fully consolidate his power yet.

It’s that pesky Constitution, especially the 2nd amendment, that gets in the way and slows things down.


90 posted on 02/22/2014 4:07:24 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Something we should all remember: under dictators, citizens always have to be slaughtered for the good of the state. I fear this will be coming here in the not too distant future.

We voted for totalitarian enslavement. Boggles the mind.


91 posted on 02/22/2014 4:12:35 PM PST by Artcore
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh trust me this is coming, its what the left wants, their wet dream is to see all Conservatives dead or in jail..if they could have a Holocaust for Conservatives they would start collecting us and throwing us in ovens in a New York minute


92 posted on 02/22/2014 4:29:37 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Please watch your language.


93 posted on 02/22/2014 4:30:54 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GeronL

Looking at the comments at the articles’ link, the libs ARE calling dissent treason.

Dissent is only not treason when it’s the libs dissenting. Got it?


94 posted on 02/22/2014 4:32:38 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: trisham

I didnt say any bad language, just my position on this, if anything was taken to offense I apologize


95 posted on 02/22/2014 4:39:09 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Thank you, Sarah. I’ve sent you a private message.


96 posted on 02/22/2014 4:45:03 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The author mentions 2 people "arrested" for protesting Bush, and says this is a sign of Bush fascism. (I put "arrested" in quotes because I am not sure they were actually arrested, but simply removed from the premises. But I could be wrong.) At any rate, here is a small sampling of arrests of anti-Obama protesters ( I have tried to confine my examples to instances in which the protesters were not blocking traffic or otherwise interfering in the everyday activities of others.) In no particular order:

2/14/2014 - 32 arrested outside White House for protesting Obama deportations of illegal aliens

10/1/2012 - "Dozens" of anti-abortion protesters arrested for praying near the White House

8/19/2013 - 2 arrested during "impeach Obama" protest on highway overpass near St. Louis

8/19/2013 - 6 arrested on highway overpass in Eureka, CA, during "impeach Obama" protest

2/13/2013 - 48 environmentalists arrested for protesting Keystone pipeline outside White House

5/14/2012 - 8 arrested in Chicago for protesting NATO at Obama Campaign headquarters

The list could go on. The allegation that people were afraid to criticize the government during the Bush years is ludicrous to the point of imbecility. Remember the anti-war street demonstrations involving tens of thousands, the constant editorials against Bush in major newspapers, and the constant scandal-mongering by the MSM? During the Bush years, I went in the local Barnes& Noble bookstore one day and counted more than 50 books in the "current events" section that were either anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-conservative, anti-Republican, or some combination of the above. Oh, yeah, Bush had his critics just quaking in their boots. (sarc)
97 posted on 02/22/2014 4:57:48 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: cincinnati65
"no point"

Agree entirely. In one situation some private citizens who didn't like the Dixie Chicks decided not to buy their music. In no way were the DCs proscribed from performing by a gov. agency. In another situation the fed gov. thinks it's a good idea to put one of their stooges in a newsroom or talk radio station to make sure that they're politically correct. If this dope doesn't know the difference (and she probably doesn't), we might as well split the country up now and separate ourselves from these tools.

98 posted on 02/22/2014 5:13:16 PM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2
"And any time you’ve got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much."

Well, the pope opposes Obama on abortion and gay marriage, so would the author say that Obama's "time is up"? Of course not.

As for the Dixie Chicks, they were not silenced - some private citizens chose to boycott them, just as libs routinely boycott things with which they disagree. The Dixie Chicks were NOT harassed and audited by the IRS, nor do I think Bush ever personally criticized them.
99 posted on 02/22/2014 5:23:17 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing but communist agitprop.


100 posted on 02/22/2014 5:26:32 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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