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To: A Navy Vet
American Exceptionalism isn't in our blood, it is the concept that every human being is endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights, and that the individual sovereignty is more important than the power of the state.

We should always stand up for that.

First, we should recognize when its in play and when its not. In Syria, it is not. You've got Islamo-Fascists fighting Fascist-fascists. Outcome doesn't effect individual liberty at all.

Ukraine has a history of struggle against tyranny going back 100 years, very similar to Poland. Unlike Poland, Ukraine was unable to beat off the Bolsheviks. Their continued resistance to Stalin was met with the forced starvation of tens of millions.

After the fall of the USSR, Ukraine kicked the Russians out of the Black Sea bases and made strong overtures to NATO.
If not for American weakness on the issue, Ukraine would have become part of NATO, no fighting would have been required, and Ukraine wouldn't be in turmoil now.

Instead, we decided that if we didn't play state craft, the Russians would feel all warm and fuzzy inside and let Ukraine live in peace. For the thousandth time in world history, that approach didn't work.

Should we now send troops? No, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't care about expanding the concept of individual liberty, when we can.

36 posted on 02/20/2014 5:28:31 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

“Should we now send troops? No, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t care about expanding the concept of individual liberty, when we can.”

Exactly, no one is expecting America to trigger of WW3 but there’s a lot of room between that and doing nothing.


46 posted on 02/20/2014 5:52:59 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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** Ukraine kicked the Russians out of the Black Sea bases**

Huh?

Better tell that to someone in Sevastopol, you know, the home of the Russian Black sea Fleet.

There is active talk if that area of Ukraine seceding and becoming independent/Dependant on Russia.

The ethnic Russians in that part of Ukraine are referring to the uprising in Kiev as an coup attempt by the US and EU forces.


83 posted on 02/20/2014 8:14:13 AM PST by wrench
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