>>>My hopie changie thing is that after all this violence there’s a transformation of Ukrainian minds, death of Sovok and realization that earlier ways of living cannot work any more. That’s the main requirement before the practical decisions can be made
Ahh, see, you need the plan of what is to come after, now.
If you don’t have a plan... <<<
Here we have a difference between Founding Fathers and Kiev mob. It is all hope and change dope for fellow travellers within it. Yep, sure, we who are working have shaped our economy for a Russian market, we who are too lazy to work are living off a Russian paid welfare but we hate them because some 80 years ago a bunch of Ukrainian urban communists led by Georgian tyrant made some of our rural folks starving.
Why won’t you work to build a base for European integration first the way some Baltic states or Poland did at the time? Don’t blame your government, Yanukovitz was in power for only a brief period of time, before him you had pro-Western administrations for a couple of decades.
What are their legacy? A billion-dollar personal accounts in Swiss banks instead of a billion-ruble Yanukovitz accounts in Bank of Moscow? What difference does it make for the rest of Ukrainians?
They are rioting for something they don’t know what and we all know that nothing of value can ever come out of it.
A total economical collapse due to a shutdown of Russian trade is a first consequence, and another series of riots due to your analogue of EBT card not working because of a Russian aid cut off.
Yes, you have a chance to build it from scratch but I see neither plan nor leaders. All we can see is an organized mob and it’s only objective is to burn a government.
It seems like Moldova, Albania and Honduras are your role models, not Poland, Czech Republic or Estonia.
There will be billions flowing, even if the Ukrainian people are destitute and buried under oppressive taxation.
International banking will get them floating Ukrainian goverment bonds.
Just like the Greek bonds.
They will buy things from EU and US companies, who will come in like vultures.
They will sell natural resources and labor at cheap prices.
They will get a brandy new Central Bank of Ukraine, which will join in with the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland. The new “central bank” will manage their money supply and interest rates.
Etc., etc.
Ahh, see, you need the plan of what is to come after, now.
I began to answer at #106. From what I've seen from the opposition, the list includes
- transferring some of the powers from the central government to the local level
- establish a balance between the presidency and the parliament by transferring some powers from his office to the parliament
- simplify the tax code
- institute complete reform of police forces (these are crooks beyond salvation, 75% of the population distrusts them, so I would just go into a community and give the badge to any first person I see. Invite Georgians
- complete reform of the judicial system and institute the jury system. The conviction rate now is in the high 90s, something is terribly wrong
- cut the number of parliamentarians in half, open the party lists to the public and in the parliament DISALLOW them to leave the party for which they were elected. (For those not familiar, people in Ukraine vote for a party, there are no riding candidates. A person becomes a member of parliament when the party leader gives them the seat. The problem happens later, when this person for obscene amounts of money switches sides and makes the party leader look stupid)
- make a deal with the eastern oligarchs. Threaten them, sweet talk to them, whatever will work. Make them pay their taxes in Ukraine, not offshore
Items below I haven't seen, but they would make sense to me. Again, this is just me playing a president
- comply with the IMF demands (to stop subsidies for the population, freeze pensions, public sector salaries etc.)
- start fracking tomorrow
- review the rate that Russia is paying to transfer gas through Ukraine
- go with the EU trade agreement in 6-9 months if eastern industries need additional time
Welcome to see any additions or critiques