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RE :”Fair point. One caveat - a true conservative position on the Boy Scouts would depend on whether or not Boy Scouts get federal subsidies. As Walter E Williams as said, anytime an organization g ts federal subsidies, there are consequences to that and one or the consequences is that there is naturally much less freedom to operate as they want. The true conservative position on the Boy Scouts is that they would need to get rid of any and all federal subsidies and then operate as they which and exercise fully their freedom of association.”

I donated to the BSs many years and respected them for standing up to gay activists.

When they changed the policy to accept gay kids but NOT adults, which affected very little, I bucked many here and decided to cut them some slack and still donate.

But when that judge forced gay marriage on Utah and those Boy Scouts came out to give free pizza to the newly married gays ON CAMERA, that one did it for me.

I always try to be reasonable but I have my own clear line. They were promoting perversion

And its really a shame. A great organization destroyed by giants.

I actually understand where you are coming from completely. My point was that a key issue was always whether or not the BS were allowing themselves to be dependent on federal subsidies. After all, here on FR, one thing that unites virtually every poster as long been the severe dangers in depending on federal subsidies of any kind, and it may indeed have been that the BS were no exception. If there were getting public subsidies, their hands were always gonna be tied until they made the commitment to be an organization supported entirely by the free market.

31 ... But when that judge forced gay marriage on Utah and those Boy Scouts came out to give free pizza to the newly married gays ON CAMERA, that one did it for me. I always try to be reasonable but I have my own clear line. They were promoting perversion.

As near as I could tell about that incident, it was 1 contentious (yeah, I know, aren't all adult volunteers contentious) adult volunteer Scouter who was leading a group of youth scouts on that mission. The council scout executive had warned this 1 individual and others to not wear BSA uniforms at public political events, e.g. gay pride parades. I have not seen any follow-up whether the scout exec kicked this individual out of BSA. I rather doubt it.