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This argument is really not between us - what we’re really doing is playing to an audience. However, unlike you, I don’t have “tax dollars” to support my postings. So I have to cut this short. Besides what I’ve already said, the following should help interested readers to dig deeper into this ocean of deadly lies.

So remember, Readers, vaccines are a trillion dollar industry, based on injecting known poisons into babies. Even the vaccine supporters admit this. What they argue, however, is that when they calculate how much poison to inject into babies, it’s safe. In fact, their poison is actually beneficial. That’s the entirety of what they call their “sound medical argument.”

As if that’s not bad enough, however, the rest of what they want involves guns in the hands of SWAT teams to take your child away from you, arrest you and shoot you dead if you resist, in order to ensure that these safe poisons are injected into every human being.

And why do they need to do this to everybody, if their vaccines work? You see, you don’t even understand medicine. These are special vaccines, just like they are special poisons. These vaccines don’t just “work.” They are collective vaccines. They only work if everyone has them, and that way, no one can be a carrier of a disease that might threaten everyone who has a vaccination. But, you say, if people are vaccinated, then what does it matter if they are exposed? And again, you don’t understand. Vaccines don’t actually stop disease - oh no. Vaccines are a way you can get rid of carriers for disease, by vaccinating them. You see? Then everyone is vaccinated, and no one is a carrier. And then - there will be no more disease on planet Earth, because no one will be a carrier.

Except if someone does get sick, then the entire planet has to get vaccinated again, at gunpoint, as babies, otherwise you hate your children and you are a menace to society.

Oh and one more thing - no vaccine is guaranteed to protect any particular person. Don’t be silly! That’s impossible!

Now do you understand medical science a little better? The kind that gets listed in PubMed? Like this other guy who got listed in PubMed. His name is Peter Singer. He’s one of the established scientists that came up with the theories that vaccinations are based on. It goes like this: government and corporations need to decide who is useful, and who is not, and then the useless people need to die. That’s right, that’s the whole thing - official medical science, in PubMed.

And don’t make the mistake of reading anything outside of PubMed - those people are all quacks. Even the MDs - doesn’t matter. All of them. And you know what needs to happen to them, right? The same thing that has to happen to the global warming deniers. real, true, verified, established and accepted science as bought and paid for in the highest courts, must be protected at all costs.

Because without that absolute control, ignorant people will challenge things they can never understand - things like limiting thresholds, and term definitions and acceptable statistics, and publishing standards and entry fees and stakeholder preferences - all the things that differentiate between what should be allowed to be read, and what should be burned. THAT is PROFESSIONAL medical science.

For the children (TM).

Peter Singer and 'lives not worth living' (from: Singer Peter. Bioethics and academic freedom. Bioethics. 1990 Jan;4(1):33–44. [PubMed])

How American Vaccine Court Works (For Pharma and Govt, Not Victims)

Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and Effective Drugs - Harvard University Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics Journal of Law, Medicine and Ethics Vol. 14, No. 3 (2013)

Vaccination Liberation

The Vaccination Racket

Mann vs. Steyn: The Trial of the Century

How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations

All I can say about your post is that it brings into serious question your sanity. But that's not unexpected--I have never seen a situation where someone who immerses themselves in pseudoscience and conspiracy theories is a rational thinker.

I also think it somewhat ironic that the only reference you can find in a medical database is by Peter Singer--a man who ideologically embraces the entire philosophy of the anti-vaccination fear mongers. Anti-vaxxers don't openly state their motives, but want as many children to die of preventable diseases as possible, while Peter Singer is completely open about wanting to kill off children. They make a perfect match.

Not that I think that you are capable of understanding, but I will point out that if profit were the only motive behind pushing vaccines, we actually would not have vaccines. There is a heck of a lot of profit in letting people get sick--doctor visits, prescriptions, hospitalizations, ICUs, caskets, funerals--that is being lost because of cheap, safe, and effective vaccines. Every time someone gets sick with a preventable disease, the epidemiological investigation alone costs thousands... I bet that irresponsible kid who exposed all of those people to measles has netted millions for everyone who is involved with the investigation and quarantine effort.

Finally, once again, you prove yourself incapable of providing any references describing actual medical research to support your ludicrous claims about vaccines. Whale.to? Seriously? Pseudoscience websites NEVER make good references.

And why do they need to do this to everybody, if their vaccines work? You see, you don’t even understand medicine. These are special vaccines, just like they are special poisons. These vaccines don’t just “work.” They are collective vaccines. They only work if everyone has them, and that way, no one can be a carrier of a disease that might threaten everyone who has a vaccination. But, you say, if people are vaccinated, then what does it matter if they are exposed? And again, you don’t understand. Vaccines don’t actually stop disease - oh no. Vaccines are a way you can get rid of carriers for disease, by vaccinating them. You see? Then everyone is vaccinated, and no one is a carrier. And then - there will be no more disease on planet Earth, because no one will be a carrier.

Why bless your heart.

Here’s your sign

In all seriousness, there are tons of articles both scholarly and for the layman that I could post that would explain to you how and why vaccines work but it would be a waste of time since it’s evident that you won’t read them. FWIW, I don’t think you are stupid in general. But I think you are stupid when it comes to understanding modern medicine and it and how science works. You’ve chosen to wear blinders and instead choose to believe in pseudo science, the very same type of pseudo science you rail against when it comes to politically based global warming and population control, etc. But the science of vaccinations well pre-dates all of that and contrary to your alarmist and wild conspiracy theories and unfounded claims, it has no political agenda and is well founded and supported by actual evidence.

But perhaps some images will make the point:

Before the polio vaccine:

When was the last time you knew of a kid who was confined to a wheel chair or in an iron lung because of Polio?

Measles deaths before and after vaccinations:

Here's some more reading material for our viewers. (Oh, lemme guess - it's quackery, right? What a surprise! LOLOL!)

Yes, that website is complete quackery. They are hawking their coconut oil and their books promoting it as a cure for Alzheimer’s and just about everything else that ails you including heart disease, viruses, bacteria, diabetes, hair loss and HIV/AIDS. They might as well be selling snake oil. Are you also so dense that you answer those Nigerian email scams too?

Marianita Jader Shilhavy, CND (Certified Nutritionist/Dietician in the Philippines) earned her bachelor of science degree in nutrition at Centro Escolar University in Manila. Understanding the nutrition of Filipino foods, Marianita worked for over eight years as a hospital dietician and nutritional counselor in the Philippines, using her knowledge of Asian foods to help people recover from illness.

Brian W. Shilhavy, BA, MA

Brian earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in Bible/Greek from Moody Bible Institute in Chicago, and his Master of Arts degree in linguistics from Northeastern Illinois University in Chicago. He is currently the CEO of Tropical Traditions, Inc.

In 1998 Marianita and Brian returned to the Philippines with their three children and renovated the old family farmhouse. By this time the coconut industry was severely depressed due to the negative U.S. campaigns against tropical oils in the 1980s and 1990s. Coconut farmers could no longer support their families on the income generated from harvesting coconuts. They are the authors of the Tropical Traditions best-selling book, Virgin Coconut Oil: How it has changed people's lives, and how it can change yours!, with over 80,000 copies in print.

Sure, they have only your best interests at heart and your health in mind. It has absolute nothing at all to do with the severely depressed coconut farming industry in the Philippines after they made the poor decision to buy a farm there and found that hawking books making false health claims was actually more profitable than farming. And FWIW, registered dieticians are some of the weirdest and the least scientific minded people I’ve ever met. And a person with a BA in Bible/Greek and an MA in linguistics is not exactly someone I would go to for medical advice. I’m not even sure what I would go a person with BA in Bible/Greek and an MA in linguistics for except to perhaps translate some ancient Greek texts for me.

Institutional Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and Effective Drugs - Harvard University Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics Journal of Law, Medicine and Ethics Vol. 14, No. 3 (2013)

That link directed me to the website of a rock band; The Refusers – “The Refusers are a high-energy rock band that performs rousing protest songs tinged with humor, satire and biting lyrics. Their music is powered by growling guitar, pounding drums, slapping bass and catchy hooks that blend elements of rock, funk and reggae into a sound that is hard-driving, accessible, informative, and addictive.”

Well that sure was convincing. I always formulate my opinions on science and medicine based on “growling guitar, pounding drums, slapping bass and catchy hooks” / s.

Not to mention that their music really sucks big time. I’d be more persuaded by U2 if they came out with an anti-vaccination song because at least they still make some good music. ; ),

OK, it’s not exactly U2 but it makes a much better point and is more factual than any of the songs by The Refusers and is much more musical to boot!

The Vaccine Song