Posted on 02/13/2014 12:43:07 PM PST by neverdem
Yes, but it is the liberal opinions that are over-turned, not the conservative.
And this Supreme Court has been surprisingly OK on 2nd Amendment.
3 judge panel. An en banc panel might be next.
There are still draconian “may issue” states out there?
I wonder how many years this case has been moving through the judicial system?
I’m about half way through the ruling. This opens up a very interesting avenue to achieve a sort of backdoor Constitutional carry; if the state must allow either concealed carry OR open carry and it elects a preference for concealed carry, as CA has, then it could be argued that gun permits must be issued free of charge to the indigent.
“There are still draconian may issue states out there?”
Yes. Several. NY, HI, CA, NY, MD, NJ, MA to name some of the guilty states. I’d add TX because of the very high cost of their permit.
But California state & local governments will fight everything to the end. We just now know how it will end on open carry. That's not something local governments can restrict - only the state government can.
As was mentioned above this is a divided opinion by 3 judge panel. Judges ina favor of right to bear arms were: O’Scannlain - Reagan apppointee and Callahan - G.W.B appointee, dissenting judge was Thomas - Clinton appointee. That pretty much explains the ruling.
You sure about that? I have a friend with a concealed carry permit (He lives north of Guernville) and he told me it's good for the entire state of California. I did a search on the Internet and found nothing on point.
CA ccw permits are valid anywhere in the state, subject to some restrictions, court houses, state gov offices and so forth. CCW holders can even carry in a school. Check the California Rifle and Pistol Association web site.
Oh cynical me; a few weeks ago a CCW holder from Florida drove his car up the east cost going through a state where a highway patrolman pulled him over for no apparent reason. The officer obviously checked the Florida CCW registry and saw the man held a permit to carry. This cop asked the man if he had any firearms in his car, which the man answered no. The cop then told him to exit the car and as another patrol unit arrived on scene, the cops starting searching the mans car looking for firearms. The man fortunately left his pistol at home, otherwise he would have been arrested by these cops and would have had his firearm confiscated.
I don't believe for a minute that I am alone when I say I am very distrusting of cops, judges and politicians so I proceed accordingly.
9th Circus rules in favor of the individual right to bear arms? Pigs are flying, people. Look up.
>> 9th circuit actually got one right?
Not sure this is the first time.
Even the Ninth Circuit knows that the Second Amendment deserves as much respect as the rest of the Bill of Rights. Definitely a pleasant surprise.
According to usacarry.com, the permit allows you carry throughout the state. The picture of the CA license seems to bear this out:
And just as the queers are saying that other states have to recognize sodomite marriage, it seems to me that there has to be reciprocity when it comes to carry “licenses”.
Good grief; that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
“Good Cause” req. always forgets that a person rarely knows, specifically, when they will need a gun and hence, have “good cause.”
I understood CCW issued in any county to be valid in all counties.
The only problem is defining counties who have settled on policy:
Shall issue
May issue
Siskyou is a shall issue and they have to look for a reason not to give you CCW, which is valid in all counties.
Santa Clara County is a “May Issue” and Laurie is a political gal. She just won’t issue them.
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