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To: kabar

Obviously the GOP can do nothing unless they have a majority in the Senate, any one who understands politics would know that. So until they get the votes in the Senate, there will be no way to change anything. Keep beating them up verbally, not voting, and trying to get them to change things that they have no way of changing without the Senate....we all lose.

That is like tying someone to a bedpost and insisting they get up and untie themselves and leave...the whiners are the ones who don’t get how politics works, they just like complaining about it.

Of course, if the GOP ever gets the Senate would be the time to go after them for change,but until then their hands are tied! The far right conservatives are only a part of their voting block...they must appeal to everyone who votes GOP/independent and if the GOP works it right some of the blue dog democrat moderates may vote for the GOP, those who are patriotic and disillusioned with Obama.

No one says you should change your opinions, just quit trying to defeat the GOP....you don’t have the votes for your own party, yet, and now is not the time to “shoot all the rest of us in the foot” by helping the democrats.

The Democrats are your Tyrannical enemies.
WAKE UP: After the GOP has won the election is the time to insist on the changes you want, now is time to come together to win.


92 posted on 02/12/2014 5:19:11 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
Obviously the GOP can do nothing unless they have a majority in the Senate, any one who understands politics would know that.

Nonsense. As long as Obama is in the WH, he can veto anything he wants and there are not enough votes to overturn his veto. Anyone who understands how our system works would know that.

Also, even if the Reps were to take over the Senate, albeit with a narrow margin, it would be very difficult to pass legislation because of cloture rules, i.e., you need 60 votes to cut off debate. Reid went nuclear on confirmations. Will the GOP do the same on legislation? And don't forget that the GOP ranks in the Senate have a number of "moderates" who will not vote with the majority of Reps. 14 Reps voted with the Dems on the Gang of 8 amnesty bill.

Keep beating them up verbally, not voting, and trying to get them to change things that they have no way of changing without the Senate....we all lose.

We are losing now. We don't have an opposition party that reflects our views. There is a lack of passion and anger that we have a President who bypasses Congress and rules by Executive Order, who selectively enforces the law, and rewrites the law. In previous times, these would be impeachable offenses.

That is like tying someone to a bedpost and insisting they get up and untie themselves and leave...the whiners are the ones who don’t get how politics works, they just like complaining about it.

You are missing the point. Many of us are tired of complaining and want to take action. One way to do that is to stop electing people who don't represent our views. We are tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.

Of course, if the GOP ever gets the Senate would be the time to go after them for change,but until then their hands are tied!

How silly are you? Why would we expect any difference from a Rep controlled Senate than we did from a Rep controlled House. The House just passed a clean debt ceiling blank check for a year with only 18 Reps voting for it. Is that what it means to control the House--passing legislation with a small minority of the Reps and the rest Dems? Can you ever recall that happening under Pelosi or any other Dem Speaker for that matter? Finally, even with control of the Senate, the Reps' hands are tied. Unless the GOP controls the WH, nothing will happen.

No one says you should change your opinions, just quit trying to defeat the GOP....you don’t have the votes for your own party, yet, and now is not the time to “shoot all the rest of us in the foot” by helping the democrats.

Who is the GOP? We just had a GOP retreat and the leadership came out with its principles on comprehensive immigration reform that includes amnesty and a huge boost in legal permanent immigration and guest worker programs at a time when 20 million Americans are unemployed or underemployed. The majority of Reps are against it, do who is shooting whom in the foot. Immigration will now be a major issue in the Fall thanks to these "principles" that will be used against every Rep candidate.

You are a GOP apologist who belongs to the Rodney King school of thought, i.e., can't we all get along? No, the stakes are too high. And exactly who is attacking whom? Remember the Rep attacks against Ted Cruz and his mini-filibuster from the likes of Peter King or McCain? Or the insults hurled by McCain, Graham, and Rove that anyone who was against amnesty was a nativist and bigot? Or John Boehner blaming the Reps for the government shutdown or saying that the debt ceiling had to be raised so we didn't default. Or Boehner attacking conservative talk radio and right wing think tanks. These are the people who have formed a circular firing squad. Conservatives and the Tea Party are the enemies.

Boehner wouldn't be the Speaker without the conservatives and the Tea Party.

The Democrats are your Tyrannical enemies. WAKE UP: After the GOP has won the election is the time to insist on the changes you want, now is time to come together to win.

Same refrain every election. Vote for the RINOs, hope for the best, and then be disappointed. The GOPe would rather lose than see a conservative win. In VA, the Rep Lt. Governor refused to endorse Cuccinelli and the Rep mayor of Virginia Beach, endorsed McAwful.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Now is the time for doing something different. We need a real alternative.

114 posted on 02/12/2014 7:35:02 AM PST by kabar
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