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95% of Climate Models Agree: The Observations Must be Wrong
Watts Up With That ^ | February 10, 2014 | Roy Spencer

Posted on 02/10/2014 4:17:31 PM PST by Vince Ferrer

I’m seeing a lot of wrangling over the recent (15+ year) pause in global average warming…when did it start, is it a full pause, shouldn’t we be taking the longer view, etc.

These are all interesting exercises, but they miss the most important point: the climate models that governments base policy decisions on have failed miserably.

I’ve updated our comparison of 90 climate models versus observations for global average surface temperatures through 2013, and we still see that >95% of the models have over-forecast the warming trend since 1979, whether we use their own surface temperature dataset (HadCRUT4), or our satellite dataset of lower tropospheric temperatures (UAH):

Whether humans are the cause of 100% of the observed warming or not, the conclusion is that global warming isn’t as bad as was predicted. That should have major policy implications…assuming policy is still informed by facts more than emotions and political aspirations.

And if humans are the cause of only, say, 50% of the warming (e.g. our published paper), then there is even less reason to force expensive and prosperity-destroying energy policies down our throats.

I am growing weary of the variety of emotional, misleading, and policy-useless statements like “most warming since the 1950s is human caused” or “97% of climate scientists agree humans are contributing to warming”, neither of which leads to the conclusion we need to substantially increase energy prices and freeze and starve more poor people to death for the greater good.

Yet, that is the direction we are heading.

And even if the extra energy is being stored in the deep ocean (if you have faith in long-term measured warming trends of thousandths or hundredths of a degree), I say “great!”. Because that extra heat is in the form of a tiny temperature change spread throughout an unimaginably large heat sink, which can never have an appreciable effect on future surface climate.

If the deep ocean ends up averaging 4.1 deg. C, rather than 4.0 deg. C, it won’t really matter.


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming
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1 posted on 02/10/2014 4:17:31 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: sauropod

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2 posted on 02/10/2014 4:18:44 PM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Vince Ferrer
Someone did some research and found the 1880’s temperatures were raising. They are cooking the books there also.
3 posted on 02/10/2014 4:21:21 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: Vince Ferrer

A lot of people don’t realy understand opportunity costs when it comes to the federal budget. In any given year, congress can only spend a dollar on one thing. If it spends a billion dollars on a satellite, for example, that’s a billion it can’t spend on maintaining the interstate highway. So yes it does make a big difference as to whether or not climate change is happening, or if it is as big of a threat climate scientists claim. Because every dollar we spend “saving the world” from a climate scenario that will not happen, is money we could spend on something that will have a positive effect on the world.


4 posted on 02/10/2014 4:24:47 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

Moonbat control freaks are never wrong, just ask them.


5 posted on 02/10/2014 4:27:55 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Think about it this way:

You’re a climatologist whose income is based on government grants. You have two different models:

Model A shows a relatively stable climate - changing but not radical. No danger. No action required.

Model B shows gloom and doom - a temperature spike leading to massive flooding, species extinction etc...massive danger, immediate action required.

Which model do you suppose is more likely to continue the flow of government money?

Now you understand why 95%+ of these “models” ALL err on the same side of the equation.


6 posted on 02/10/2014 4:28:46 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Vince Ferrer

They started LYING about the climate in the late 70s because that is when the communist left had fully penatrated academia and the upper echelons of the US government.


7 posted on 02/10/2014 4:30:16 PM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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8 posted on 02/10/2014 4:32:12 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Vince Ferrer
man made global warming is not a scientific theory...its a political theory so certain groups or people or individuals can benefit handsomely from it...

own corn farms?....you push global warming so you sell ethanol to meet govt mandates...

own open hills?...you push global warming so the govt will force energy companies to invest in wind farms...

maybe you own railroads?....no way do you want pipelines taking natural gas long distances...you want that business....

$$$$$$$$$....the elites have won again...

9 posted on 02/10/2014 4:37:11 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I want to ping that sun guy, cannot remember his name.

Sun is very big.

Earth is small.

Solar flare at all time low.

Thus we are cold.

I am waiting on the Al Gore we must feed the Sun scam.

With out the Sun, we are ice.


10 posted on 02/10/2014 4:37:44 PM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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But maybe, if we rocket Ethanol to the Sun we will be just right....


11 posted on 02/10/2014 4:39:03 PM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Now they’re saying the warming is there, but it’s hiding deep in the ocean. If this were a TV show, everyone would say they’ve jumped the shark. But, this being politics the libs take this nonsense seriously. What do expect from a bunch who thinks Obamacare killing jobs is a good thing?


12 posted on 02/10/2014 4:44:08 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Vince Ferrer
Because every dollar we spend “saving the world” from a climate scenario that will not happen, is money we could spend on something that will have a positive effect on the world.

How about not spending it at all? How about not taking it away from taxpayers to begin with, and let them decide for themselves what "positive effect" they want to have?

Gee, there's a concept.

13 posted on 02/10/2014 4:44:09 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Personal Responsibility
Which model do you suppose is more likely to continue the flow of government money?

And therefore diverting money that should have been spent on something more useful straight to them, for their own gain.

14 posted on 02/10/2014 4:44:54 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: hadaclueonce
With out the Sun, we are ice.

Women and Minorities hardest hit!

15 posted on 02/10/2014 4:44:59 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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Women and Minorities hardest hit!

And my knees and hip!

16 posted on 02/10/2014 4:52:53 PM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: eyedigress

“Moonbat control freaks are never wrong...”

Right or wrong are such subjective ideas. You have to ask, how does it make you feel?


17 posted on 02/10/2014 4:54:18 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: colorado tanker
Now they’re saying the warming is there, but it’s hiding deep in the ocean.

I've been reading the same thing. Of course, they can't explain why the oceans are hiding heating rather than cooling.

I see three big problems with the global warming theory:

(1) It is a theory for which every piece of evidence is proof, so it cannot be disproved.

(2) The theory and its models fail to account for the sun and the oceans.

(3) The models don't correctly predict the actual recorded data.

18 posted on 02/10/2014 4:56:24 PM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: colorado tanker

Fick Principle?


19 posted on 02/10/2014 5:04:55 PM PST by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Hummm. They all say we are headed toward a Permian extinction like event. Perhaps the model builders should take a look at just how extreme the conditions were that brought that event about over a million year time period.


20 posted on 02/10/2014 5:05:18 PM PST by JimSEA
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