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It's a blockbuster of biblical proportions with a cast of thousands, there's room for them all; but there's no room for just a smidgin of common sense nor logic, and if you should make the mistake of taking part in a robust debate on the subject, beware, you'll be mentioned in dispatches and your epaulettes might be removed.
OK, now you’ll have to explain it to me nice and slow, was the Dunham on your family tree in any way related to Stanley Armour, or was this the line that was related by marriage to Loretta Fuddy?
Tell it to me one step at a time...because I seem to remember that zero could claim a relationship to the deceased Director of Health in Hawaii, but only of course, if his mother was the girl he is shown with in Hawaii in 1963.
But...but what about Madelyn’s ancestors? Don’t they count for something?
Thanks BD
This is a long read. Several articles. Follow the link at the bottoming each link to III fifth article down. “Everything you wanted to know about the bishop trust but was afraid to ask “
Whip has been pointing us in this direction
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I and II are mainly background but III-5 discused the enrollment of the school system set up by the bishop trust. NO None native Hawaiians were allowed in the school. Only native Hawaiian
Am still hunting for a paragraph posted last month stating Hawaiian natives were those who ancestors came from a pacific ring countries that inhabited HI before the missionary The missionaries ran the school for the “natives”
Please help find that paragraph
(Don’t think Kenya and Kansas would qualify. He would have had to use Indonesia to get in)
It begins here : ( three links total with connections at top and bottom)
http://www.kycbs.net/Bishop.htm
A son of James Skiff Dunhamm married Hazel Payne Coombs.
But is he his own grandpa??
Gotcha. Some of it evidently did stick, I recalled the Fuddy connection. However, I’m still a bit stuck on how on earth did Stanley Armour, the guy from the wrong side of the tracks, of whom the Payne family didn’t approve, decend from such illustrious Dunham forebears?
And furthermore, even IF zero was his grandson, which I don’t accept for a cotton-picken’ moment, how would that persuade a teenager to write KING OBAMA in wet concrete?
Its not coincidence in that stress from crash caused fatal arrhythmia
As someone with arrhythmia
It happens
I think that finally the penny dropped. This isn’t the first time you’ve tried to show this connection, which only works for the myth of ‘Dreams’ - in which iirc, there’s a paragraph which describes Stanley Armour telling the boy he’s related to Hawaiian royalty...
And that, must have been after he told his Grade 5 classmates he was an Indonesian Prince.
“...Take a gander at these truths we learn—and some we didn’t—from David Maraniss’s book, Barack Obama: The Story.
1. He told classmates he was an Indonesian prince. “His grandfather [Stanley] had told strangers that the boy was a descendant of ali ‘i, native Hawaiian royalty. In Obama’s later memoir, he recalled boasting at Punahou that his father was an African prince. Some classmates remembered it differently, that first he claimed his father was an Indonesian prince” (p. 268)...”
So you’re saying O’s family has an incestuous relationship with oil/wealth for generations? It would make sense that he wrote his book about his absent father.... Squirrel!
Carol Katsuyo Makahanaloa, 72, of Kapolei, a Bank of Hawaii loan officer, died in Honolulu. She was born in Honolulu. She is survived by husband Joseph, sons Ainsley K. and Samuel, daughters Kara Kaneshiro and Betsy L. Bush, brother Dr. Hamilton McCubbin , sister Joni Fabrao, 11 grandchildren and six great-grandchildren.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Jun/30/ln/ln50pobituaries.html
JONETTE “JONI” SACHIYO MCCUBBIN FABRAO, 65, of Hawai’i Kai, died June 13, 2005. Born in Honolulu. Employed at the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands. Survived by husband, Raymond; children, Chandra Satele Jr., Raymond, Raechelle and Kimberley Fabrao; sister, Carol Makahanaloa; brother, Hamilton McCubbin; nine grandchildren.
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Native Hawaiians with a blood quantum level of 50 percent or higher can qualify for the lands, which come with a 99 year lease at a cost of $1 per year.
The ruling does not indicate whether the state must allocate funds from this year's budget for the department's administrative expenses.
DHHL’s budget in fiscal year 2012 was $185 million, 85 percent of which comes from trust funds. The rest is from federal and special funds.
EXCLUSIVE: Hawaiian Home Lands owed $82 million in outstanding loans
Posted: Apr 12, 2013
Star Advertiser 3-Part Expose on the Department of Hawaiian Homelands
MAY 8, 2013
DHHL breaks ground on Lai Opua Village 4
February 4, 2014
Gov. Neil Abercrombie and DHHL Director Jobie Masagatani are joined by homesteaders Bo Kahui and Dora Aio-Leamons on the left, and Wally Lau, Hawaii County Managing Director, and Hawaiian Homes Commissioner Wally Ishibashi on the right as they break ground on the latest increment of the Villages of Lai Opua in Kealakehe. (Photo courtesy of DHHL)
Yes, they contained the same information.
But the scratches disappearing over time showed that the microfilms had been replaced, which makes no sense to do since the information was the same on both - unless the replacement with the “cleaner” microfilm was to cover up mistakes made when the previous microfilm change-out had been done.
IOW, the obvious manipulation/changing of the microfilms makes all versions of them suspect - because you only go to the trouble of changing out a microfilm roll if you think there’s a good reason to do so.
Maggief,
Many thanks for the information; corruption is widespread it seems...
How would the dispute in kalaupapa, Molokai figure into this?
Your #281, #286, #287 connect the dots neatly, showing where some of that trust money Maddy D set up for him could have come from.
0 tax returns show he gets money from a trust.
0 is a Red diaper doper (trust fund) baby.....
Not sure I can answer your question ...
http://www.pauahi.org/ksalumni/news/alumni-message-kanaiolowalu
08/22/2013 - 10:35am
With the support of the 2011 Hawaii State Legislature, ACT 195 was signed into law by Governor Abercrombie on July 6, 2011. Through ACT 195, the State of Hawaii officially acknowledges “that Native Hawaiians are the only indigenous aboriginal, maoli population of Hawaii and that Native Hawaiians are the indigenous, native people of the Hawaiian archipelago and are a distinctly native community, and recognizes the special relationship the State has with Native Hawaiians.” ACT 195 also facilitates self-determination for Native Hawaiians and supports the establishment of a modern self-governing entity by Native Hawaiians.
(snip)
http://www.oha.org/page/native-hawaiian-roll-commission
Native Hawaiian Roll Commission
http://themolokaidispatch.com/kalaupapa-residents-sign-kanaiolowalu-petition/
Thursday, May 16th, 2013 By Molokai Dispatch Staff
Kalaupapa Residents Sign Kana`iolowalu Petition
Kana`iolowalu News Release
The Native Hawaiian Roll Commission, chaired by former Governor John Waihe`e III, attended the 10th anniversary celebration of Ka `Ohana O Kalaupapa at Kalaupapa on April 27 where Kalaupapa residents were given the opportunity to sign the Kana`iolowalu petition along with the descendants of Kalaupapa and friends who came together for the event.
“We felt it was important for Chair Waihe`e and the Native Hawaiian Roll Commission to visit Kalaupapa for support of the Kana`iolowalu petition just like Ahahui Aloha `Aina came to Kalaupapa in 1897 to give our people the chance to sign the Ku`e petition against annexation,” said Clarence “Boogie” Kahilihiwa, a resident of Kalaupapa for more than 50 years and President of Ka `Ohana O Kalaupapa. “Nearly 700 of our people signed the Ku`e petition, as did thousands of others across Hawaii, opposing annexation in any form.”
The Commission was appointed in 2011 with the mission to register native Hawaiians to reunify in the self-recognition of the unrelinquished sovereignty of Native Hawaiians. Ka `Ohana O Kalaupapa is a nonprofit organization dedicated to honoring the value and dignity of all the estimated 8,000 people who were taken from their families and isolated on the Kalaupapa peninsula because of government policies regarding leprosy.
(snip)
http://www.kanaiolowalu.org/about/
KANA’IOLOWALU PETITION
http://honoluluweekly.com/cover/2012/07/sovereignty-calling/
In an attempt to broaden the discussion, the Commission will also be reaching out to non-Hawaiians through a petition that Anthony likened to the Kue petitions that were drafted in overwhelming opposition to America’s 1897 annexation of Hawaii.
Those willing to affirm the inherent sovereignty of Native Hawaiians may sign the Kana`iolowalu petition. However, to qualify for the roll, individuals must be over age 18 and able to prove they are related to the aboriginal peoples who inhabited the Islands prior to 1778. They also must demonstrate a significant cultural, social or civic connection to the Native Hawaiian community.
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