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To: editor-surveyor; Salvation; .45 Long Colt; metmom
>>There never was any “Dispensation of Law.”<<

LOL What did you think the change was from before the law of Moses and after? I suppose you think that wasn’t a different way God managed His affairs with man either? How about before Adam sinned and after? Was that a different way He managed the affairs with man? Paul called this the dispensation of grace. How much clearer can it get?

>>The Torah, or Teaching, was never provided to save, but to preserve.<<

We are not to be under the law of the Torah I don’t care what that fake Rabbi Rood teaches. He’s straight from Satan as is the cult of “The Way” and the Hebrew roots apostasy. Putting people back under the law does not save nor preserve. It nullifies the death of Christ for those who follow that line of thinking.

>>Satan will gladly divert you from Yeshua’s Torah, for that will diminish your life in every way, and weaken your faith.<<

No it’s frauds like Rood who would attempt like the Sadducees to put people back under the law.

>>Do you believe that Yeshua lied in Matthew 5?<<

The dispensation of grace had not begun yet when Jesus was speaking in Matthew 5. At that point they were still under the law. He paid the full price at His death on the cross.

>>There is much to be accomplished; how shall that be without Torah?<<

By the grace of God working through us.

>>Will you nullify Yeshua’s Revelation and replace it with the Beast’s plan of registration?<<

No I honor His revelation of the dispensation of grace to Paul who clearly articulated it in his writings. It’s fakes and frauds like Rood and the people of the cult of “The Way” and Hebrew roots heretics that attempt to put people back under the law nullifying the death of Christ in their lives.

149 posted on 02/09/2014 4:35:28 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; Salvation; .45 Long Colt; metmom
>> “What did you think the change was from before the law of Moses and after?” <<

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Is Matthew chapter 5 not in your Bible?

"After" the Torah comes about 1000 years into the future. (Mat 5)

Yehova is still expecting a loving remnant to obey his commandments to day as he did at Sinai. That is what his son told us in Matthew 5, and in the rest of the gospels for that matter.

You are twisting the words of Paul. He did not declare a framework of time separate from any previous period and call it “the dispensation of Grace.” He merely announced that grace was dispensed to us. Grace was also dispensed to Moses, Joshua, and David, or they would be lost. How could they have any hope without grace? They were sinners, and the blood of goats and sheep couldn't atone for sin.

Isaiah 1:

[11] To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Hebrews 10:

[1] For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
[2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
[3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
[4] For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Do you see any salvation by animal in those verses?

You reject Torah?

Romans 2:

[12] For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
[13] (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

James 1:

[22] But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
[23] For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
[24] For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
[25] But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Note that James identifies Torah as "the perfect law of liberty."

Your ideas are completely at odds with every part of Yehova's word. Torah is to our benefit, not our diminishment. Who ever said that we don't need Torah? Not Paul, not James, not Peter, Who?

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161 posted on 02/09/2014 5:21:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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