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WHEREAS, the federal government has created a crushing national debt through improper and imprudent spending; and

WHEREAS, the federal government has invaded the legitimate roles of the states through the manipulative process of federal mandates, most of which are unfunded to a great extent; and

WHEREAS, the federal government has ceased to live under a proper interpretation of the Constitution of the United States; and

WHEREAS, it is the solemn duty of the states to protect the liberty of our people, particularly for the generations to come, by proposing amendments to the Constitution of the United States through a convention of the states under Article V of the United States Constitution to place clear restraints on these and related abuses of power.

I'm sure that every state in the Union would pass a Constitutional amendment. The trouble is that it would not be the same amendment.

In related news, Jon Ward talked to retiring Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn, who'll be a private citizen in 10 months. His plans? "I'm going to be involved with the Convention of States. I'm going to try to motivate so that that happens. I think that's the only answer. I'm just going to go around and talk about why it's needed, and try to convince state legislatures to do it."

That would be helpful to the cause. Glenn Beck has his audience, but the mainstream media sees him as a duplicitous clown. (Really, how many times can he make news for apologizing about his tone, from back when he was famous?) Mark Levin is an icon on the right, but a shrill radio host who refers to the next Democratic presidential nominee as "Hillary Rotten Clinton" and "her thighness" might not be an ideal intellectual ambassador. But Coburn? There's a chair molded to fit him on the set of Morning Joe.

1 posted on 02/07/2014 9:04:18 AM PST by taildragger
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To: taildragger
Mark Levin noted last night on his show, Sen Coburn didn't retire because of his health but to go out across the Country and promote the Article 5 movement.

IMHO this is big news and no one is discussing it.

A former Senator leaves a dysfunctional body to champion it's ultimate fix...

2 posted on 02/07/2014 9:06:15 AM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: taildragger

Be careful what you wish for. In this era of the low information voter and the ascendency of the entitlement mentality an constitutional convention could backfire big time. Once started there’s no way to predict where it will go.


3 posted on 02/07/2014 9:10:32 AM PST by circlecity
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To: taildragger
Georgia, Tom Coburn Call for Constitutional Convention

I don't believe anyone is calling for a Constitutional Convention.

But

a convention of the states under Article V of the United States Constitution

But this is Slate; that explains the misinfomation.


6 posted on 02/07/2014 9:19:53 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Jacquerie

Article V
ping-a-ling


7 posted on 02/07/2014 9:20:21 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: taildragger

IT IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION!

IT IS A CONVENTION TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS!


8 posted on 02/07/2014 9:20:40 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: taildragger

The senator needs to add an amendment to the existing constitution not have a constitutional convention. Opening up a CC will open all the constitution up to revision to include changing existing amendments as there is no control over want can be reviewed in a CC (loss of the second anyone?).

The progressives want this more than any other method as they will likely do anything pack the convention vote as this is simpler than changing the minds of the many to get what they want.

This will let our enemies do their best to undermine and influence the changes to our constitution; I believe that the kleptocractic politicians and “social leaders” will take great amounts of money for their vote and screw us in the process.

If this is the best idea, then the dissolving of the United states is certain.


9 posted on 02/07/2014 9:20:42 AM PST by Liaison
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To: taildragger; All
The Constitution isn't broke, so let's not "fix" it by amending it.

The main problem with the Constitution, imo, is actually dishonest pro-big federal government interpretations of it which the crooks running DC get away with as a consequence of inexcusable, widespread ignorance of the federal government's constitutionally limited powers.

What needs to be done to restore state sovereignty is to impeach a bunch of crooks in DC. The problem is that the "leaders" in DC who have the power to impeach the crooks are themeselves crooks who also need to be impeached.

What patriots need to do instead of crying for the Constitution to be amended is the following. They need to work to elect a 2/3 conservative majority in each House of Congress in the 2014 elections. If they succeed then Congress will be positioned as follows.

Congress controlled by a conservative supermajority will have the power, under the Constitution's Clause 2 of Section 7 of Article I, to override presidential vetoes. In other words, Congress will be able to repeal Obamacare Democratcare, for example, without Obama's signature.

16 posted on 02/07/2014 9:25:55 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: taildragger

If the commies running the state and local governments give up the enormous federal funding first, we might begin to trust them more.


21 posted on 02/07/2014 9:33:36 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: taildragger

Morning Joe? Who listens to Morning Joe? Up until then you had some good stuff going.


29 posted on 02/07/2014 9:46:11 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: taildragger
Momentum had been building oh-so-slowly on the right for a new, state-led constitutional convention, which could pass propose amendments far quicker than the Congress could. (And no one sees a scenario, any time soon, where there'll be 67 conservative votes in the Senate to pass propose amendments.)

Sloppy writing or intentionally misleading?

-PJ

36 posted on 02/07/2014 9:57:16 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: taildragger

Here’s my proposal:

WHEREAS, the federal government has created a crushing national debt through improper and imprudent spending; and

WHEREAS, the federal government has invaded the legitimate roles of the states through the manipulative process of federal mandates, most of which are unfunded to a great extent; and

WHEREAS, the federal government has ceased to live under a proper interpretation of the Constitution of the United States; and

WHEREAS, it is the solemn duty of the states to protect the liberty of our people, particularly for the generations to come, by proposing amendments to the Constitution of the United States through a convention of the states under Article V of the United States Constitution to place clear restraints on these and related abuses of power.

THEREFORE, let is be resolved that henceforth, the Federal Government, and the Courts, shall actually follow the Constitution as it exists.


42 posted on 02/07/2014 10:04:48 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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Folks, take another look at that "police state." Who's going to the wrong addresses? Who's getting away with various kinds of assaults? Who is doing the illegal snooping on you?

The locals!

Who passed all of those commie regulations against building your own home, producing a few items in your own shop and against other healthy endeavors?

That's right! The local commies. And they won't stop sucking huge on federal funds. They're only wanting to control those federal funds more in order to...you got it! Funnel more of them into their state and local governments.


76 posted on 02/07/2014 10:58:52 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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And who pandered to those local gossips to put so many hard working men out of business and increase the obesity of your state and local governments? Both local parties! That's right!

How Dramatically Did Women's Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government?

JOHN R. LOTT Jr.
American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (download links for whole document at bottom of page)

September 1998

University of Chicago Law School, John M. Olin Law & Economics Working Paper No. 60
Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 107, Number 6, Part 1, pp. 1163-1198, December 1999

Abstract:
This paper examines the growth of government during this century as a result of giving women the right to vote. Using cross-sectional time-series data for 1870 to 1940, we examine state government expenditures and revenue as well as voting by U.S. House and Senate state delegations and the passage of a wide range of different state laws. Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing over time as more women took advantage of the franchise. Contrary to many recent suggestions, the gender gap is not something that has arisen since the 1970s, and it helps explain why American government started growing when it did.


77 posted on 02/07/2014 11:02:21 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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And what fuels the little bandwagons of personal insults on political discussion boards (e.g., the Giuliani debacle)? Yes! Local hysteria! It's everywhere!

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :

  Hysteria \Hys*te"ri*a\, n. [NL.: cf. F. hyst['e]rie. See
     Hysteric.] (Med.)
     A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women,
     in which the emotional and reflex excitability is
     exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished,
     so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes
     the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into
     paroxism or fits.
     [1913 Webster]
  
     Note: The chief symptoms are convulsive, tossing movements of
           the limbs and head, uncontrollable crying and laughing,
           and a choking sensation as if a ball were lodged in the
           throat. The affection presents the most varied
           symptoms, often simulating those of the gravest
           diseases, but generally curable by mental treatment
           alone. Hysteric





79 posted on 02/07/2014 11:05:19 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: taildragger
I fully support the Convention Of States project.

That being said, IMO, Coburn is correct to call this a Constitutional Convention.

A Constitutional Convention is a gathering of delegates for the purpose of creating a new constitution OR changing an existing one.

If 34 states held a convention to change just one word of the Constitution, that could be correctly called a Constitutional Convention. This is just my opinion based on my research and understanding.

Lastly, I'm perfectly happy with whatever we agree to call, just as long as we get it done.

81 posted on 02/07/2014 11:11:19 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: taildragger; All
Some research links on the Article V process:

Convention of States - Alabama Way to go Alabama! A good introduction.

'Convention of states' to rein in government? Another great summary explanation.

The Case for an Article V. Convention. Fantastic explanation of Article V convention to the Mass State Legislature.

Recommend watching the above videos first and then on to:

Convention of States Lots of information here.

A Summary of Mark Levin’s Proposed Amendments by Jacquerie

Chapter 1 of Mark Levin’s Book, The Liberty Amendments

Mark Levin, Constitution Article V, and the Liberty Amendments

Article V Project to Restore Liberty

Rep. Bill Taylor introduces a Convention of States

Citizens for Self Governance: Convention of States Project – a hub of 15 youtube videos on the Convention of States

Mark Levin Article V, Liberty Amendments youtube video hub

Three hour video of C-Span interview with Mark Levin

Amendments Convention Links

Gaining Steam? Nearly 100 Lawmakers Descend on Mount Vernon to Talk Convention of States The beginning.

Convention to Propose Amendments to the United States Constitution

The Other Way to Amend the Constitution: The Article V Constitutional Convention Amendment Process

Friends of Article V Convention Links

Article V Convention: Path of Least Resistance By Robert Berry

Article V Handbook - for State Legislators

State Legislators Article V Caucus State Legislators, Join up at this site!

Send this list of links to your State Representatives and Senators here: Contact your State Legislators.

Sample Letter to state Representatives regarding the Convention of States Project and also, Talking Points. Both from Here.

Let’s all work together to get this going. Call or write your state Senator today.

The Federal Government is broken. We owe it to The Founders and ourselves to attempt a rational Article V amendment process.

92 posted on 02/07/2014 12:02:38 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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