Posted on 02/06/2014 9:05:32 AM PST by aimhigh
Police have called upon the military for help and are scratching their heads as to how and why a man in southern Sweden managed to amass an arsenal of hundreds of weapons, 557 of which he had a licence to own. . . . . . . .
Fearing an explosion, officers cordoned off the house and called in a bomb squad and the military for help. Closer inspection showed that the homeowner had actually had licences for 557 of the weapons, but questions have been raised as to whether such an extensive collection is nevertheless in breach of Sweden's weapon laws. The man is also suspected of breaching Sweden's flammable and explosive item laws. . . . . .
And it doesn't seem likely that the gun owner will be reunited with his extensive collection, much to the irritation of the 70-year-old Swede. "He won't be getting them back, and he's not very happy. But he is being very polite about it, he's a real gentleman," Dahlbäck said.
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No different than law enforcement here. How many articles have you read over the years where someone' "arsenal" is stolen by police because they thought he had too many guns or too much ammo?
You would be swiftly ventilated.
“Black powder explodes, smokeless powder burns vigorously.”
True, but it’s a rather fine distinction and peak pressures, I believe, are generally lower for black powder.
His boat must not have sunk? Lucky guy.
“I asked a fireman what happens to ammo in a house fire. He said, “It just goes pop, pop, pop. You’d be hard pressed to get hurt by it.””
Not entirely true. Check out demolition ranch on youtube. He puts a fifty cal round in a microwave. It had enough force to blow the door off the microwave. I wouldn’t want to get hit by that, though the odds of getting hit are slim, but if you had enough cooking off, I don’t know. I am also pretty sure your firefighter friend would not go running into a burning gun ammo factory.
Still, a few rounds cooking off in a fire, I agree, is probably not the biggest concern when entering a burning residence. Gas, electric, other household combustibles, heck, a soup can can cook off with some pretty good force (don’t ask how I know). Noxious fumes are probably the greatest concern, though there is a group of firefighters sueing claiming the sirens are damaging their hearing.
I’m guessing fifty-cals are rare in house fires. (I do have a pound of black powder in a can...)
Unless you work for the TSA, Social Security or Post Office.
If 30 seconds was good enough for Heinlein, it’s good enough for me.
Ultimately this would be different how?
Govt. “Threat List” Of 8 Million Americans To Be Detained Upon Martial Law
Quicker and less painful?
The Swedish government said:
“This has got to stop!
We can’t have elderly people defending themselves against thugs and a possible Muslim takeover...”
“I’m guessing fifty-cals are rare in house fires. (I do have a pound of black powder in a can...)”
Even fewer contained in a microwave with a door catch that can make a nice, scary, visual effect...
“Even fewer contained in a microwave with a door catch that can make a nice, scary, visual effect...”
It worked great in one of those early Bond flicks where he drops a butanone lighter in an airplane microwave and punched “Popcorn.”
Default Gun laws in Sweden Greetings, everybody!
I was asked to share swedish guns laws with you guys. Let`s start off with what you have to do to be able to get a gun in Sweden...
To start with, you have to be 18 yrs or older to qualify in to getting a gun.
Second: You have to have been "clean" for atleast 5 years. If you have a license and get arrested, even down to beeing to drunk so the police take you in and place you in custody over the night, you could lose you`re license and they will take you`re gun. No compensation given for the weapons they take.
Third: You have to be a member in a shooting club and follow their rules. That includes taking a newbie (spelling?) course. That will cost you about 250$. You have to pass the shooting test and the theorethical (spelling, again...) test in order to get passed. Once you have passed you get a green card. Then you have to have been a member for 6 months and have passed another, more difficult shooting test (called "gold series") in order to be able to buy youre first gun. Oh, i almost forgot, you have to have done 4 competitions in that weapons class to be able to buy the gun. But since you have been a member no longer than 6 months, you can not buy anything else that a .22 pistol or revolver... This can vary between diffrent clubs though, i think. Anyways. After a year you can buy any gun you want that is legal in Sweden, but only if you have participated in 4 or more competitions for that weapons class.
So, let`s say i have been a member in a club for 1 year, passed all the test and done 4 competitions with a A-gun, for example a Glock 17. Now all i have to do is send in an activity card to the board (the ones who decide things =)) in my club, give them the exakt dates for the competitions i have participated in, and show them my proof of a gold series (the one i mentioned before) that is no older than 1 year (forgot to tell you that you have to update you`re gold series every year, an instructor have to see you shooting the gold series and then he, and only him, can make a nothe about it in a shooting card that everyone has.), and then they will probably give you a note that says you are an active member of the club and have passed the test that is needed.
Before you do this, you have to know what gun you want since that guns serial number have to be on the note you get from the club.
So, off to the police station. At the police station you give them the note from you`re club and pay them about 30$, then they will come back to you in a couple of weeks and hopefully give you a license on that gun. Oh, i almost forgot, you have to show them a invoice on a safety cabinet (?) You have to have all youre weapons in such a cabinet in sweden by law.
The police can come knock on you`re door to check if you are storing your weapons correctly, if not they will take all your guns and press charges.
Well, i think that is about it. And if you want to get another gun, you have to get a new note from you`re club. Smooth, right?
Another thing, if decide not to be a active member, the police can come knocking on you`re door after 2 years and take you`re guns away.
If you want two 9 mm guns, you have to motivate it, or else they wont give you a license on two guns of the same caliber. The max amount of weapons you can have is 11 now i think, including hunting rifles and so on, but they are about to change it to 6 or 8, can`t remember which...
I`m sure i left some of all the stupid rules out, but i think this gives you a pretty good idea how it works in Sweden.
If you guys have any questions, just post them and i will answer them as soon as i can.
//Mattias
Even in a fire. It will cook off, but is not really as dangerous as people think.
We live in an era when lies have more credence than truth.
Yup. See any reference to guns on a plane to view ignorance in it's most awesome glory.
I've seen that in a book. Can't remember where. I need to set up an audio file like that as an alarm system.
Robert Heinlien Starship Troopers.
looks like he took “be prepared” to heart, assuming he had ammo also
Safe bet is my guess.
557 guns at home?
That’s a good start.
>>I asked a fireman what happens to ammo in a house fire. He said, “It just goes pop, pop, pop. You’d be hard pressed to get hurt by it.”
There are some good YouTube videos of that, for fireman training and such. Unconstrained and in a fire, ammo doens’t do much.
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