Hear Bill Ayers say again, 'I wrote Obama bio' (Corsi prompts "non-ironic" declaration)

WND ^ | January 30, 2014 | Art Moore

[Seizethecarp]

Prior to a debate Thursday night with author and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza at Dartmouth College, Ayers brought up the subject himself in an exchange with WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi.

The conversation took a familiar path, but toward the end, Corsi tried to cut through the irony, pointing out to Ayers that he typically says he wrote it and will split the royalties with anyone who can prove it.

Corsi asserted that Ayers’ familiar, ironic reply was a declaration that he doesn’t really mean what he’s saying, that he was “taking it back.”

“No, it does not take it back,” Ayers insisted.

“It doesn’t?” asked Corsi.

“No,” Ayers said.

“You wrote it?”

“I wrote it,” Ayers said.

Whether or not Ayers was simply draping another layer of irony on his “admission,” Cashill’s compelling comparative analysis was confirmed in a 2009 book by celebrity biographer Christopher Anderson, “Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage,” which recounted in some detail how a desperate Obama in the mid-1990s, facing a second canceled book contract, sought the help of Ayers.

[Seizethecarp]

Hat tip to Fantasywriter for this thread!

Obots will claim that Ayers’ denial of “irony” is ironic!

[Fantasywriter]

‘Andersen’s book suggests a different understanding of the situation: Obama using Ayers’s book To Teach as a template for his memoir, Ayers reading, editing, and revising it.’

Where are you getting this? Here’s the version I found:

“But sorting through the more than 200 interviews Andersen says it took to create this book, he came to a startling conclusion: After Obama had to give up on a $150,000 Simon & Schuster contract because he couldn’t complete the manuscript, his sources were telling him Obama finally had to bring in a ghostwriter to put together his highly praised Dreams From My Father for Times Books. He had a million pieces of tape, pictures, memos, notes, and no manuscript.

And he was running out of time to deliver the book.

Nothing wrong so far. Few politicians can string a paragraph together without a ghostwriter.

Unfortunately for Obama, he was caught at a July 10, 2008, meeting in Fairfax, Virginia proudly saying the following:

I’ve written two books. I actually wrote them myself.

Also unfortunately for Obama, Andersen’s sources – all of whom were sympathetic and appear to be at least neighbors to Obama – came to other conclusions. Andersen wrote:

These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers. “Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together,” another Hyde Park neighbor pointed out. “It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both.” In the end, Ayers’ contribution to Barack’s Dreams From My Father would be significant – so much so that the book’s language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers’ own writing. Even the caveat at the beginning of Dreams, in which Barack points out that he uses invented dialogue, embellished facts, composite characters, inaccurate chronology, and pseudonyms to create an “approximation” of reality, resembles Ayers’ defense of the inaccuracies in his memoir Fugitive Days. In the foreword to his book, Ayers states that the book is merely a collection of his personal memories and “impressions.” … Thanks to help from the veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Books.”

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/did-bill-ayers-write-obamas-book/

[Fantasywriter]

Thanks again for posting it. Like others, I wish Drudge wd pick it up.

[freepersup]

Thanks for the thread and links. I didn’t set out to hijack the thread or post so much off topic... I just found myself needing to besmirch this scumbag with the facts.

[Fantasywriter]

I’m just amazed it’s not getting more attention. The other times Ayers ‘admitted’ authorship he did it in a joking way. He had plausible deniability, or close to it. This time he didn’t waffle. He just flat out says, ‘I wrote it’.

Of course anyone who’s read any of Obama actual writing doesn’t need Ayers’ confession. They already know. But for those on the fence, this should lay it to rest. Let’s hope it gets wider exposure somehow.

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.

[GOPJ]

The book, like everything in Obama’s life, is a con.

Yep, it was a con - but a con that worked on journalists.. where the majority of the damage in the first campaign was done.

[Faith]

Thanks for your post.

[hecticskeptic]

Ayers and Dorn bombings... thanks for posting that list. I knew there were bombings and murders but I had completely forgotten how long that list was.

[freepersup]

This website is a goldmine of information on the left’s networks. EVERYONE should bookmark it, and disseminate the web address far and wide. freepersup

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

Excerpt:

In 1985, former Weather Underground members Susan Rosenberg (who also was implicated in the Nyack robbery) and Linda Evans were apprehended while transporting 740 pounds of explosives which they both acknowledged were slated for use in additional bombings. Rosenberg was sentenced to 58 years in prison, Evans 40; President Bill Clinton pardoned both women in January 2001.

freepersup >>> Nine months before 9-11, CLINTON pardons an unrepentant associate of AYERS, who was convicted of transporting 740 pounds of explosives! She was also involved in the armored car heist in which two policemen and a Brinks security guard were murdered. PARDONED by a DEMOCRAT- CLINTON! <<< freepersup

Good old Susan Rosenberg.

•Involved with several terrorist groups in 1970s and early 1980s, including the Black Liberation Army, the Weather Underground, and The Family

•Sentenced in 1984 to a 58-year prison term for the possession of more than 700 pounds of explosives and a stockpile of illicit weapons

•Indicted for driving the getaway car in the October 1981 robbery of a Brinks armored car carrying $1.6 million, a robbery in which two policemen and an armed guard were murdered

•After having served 16 years of her 58-year sentence, she was pardoned by President Clinton in January 2001, just days before Clinton left office.

•Was hired by New York’s Hamilton College to teach a course in January 2005

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1806

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I'm looking at what's written on pages 164-168 of Andersen's book. These sentences are in there:

Even the caveat at the beginning of Dreams, in which Barack points out that he uses invented dialogue, embellished facts, composite characters, inaccurate chronology, and pseudonyms to create an “approximation” of reality, resembles Ayers’ defense of the inaccuracies in his memoir Fugitive Days. In the foreword to his book, Ayers states that the book is merely a collection of his personal memories and “impressions.” … Thanks to help from the veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Books.”

I can't find the part about the "truckload of notes." Maybe it's a legal question and Andersen stepped back from claims he made elsewhere when he published the hardback, but lawyers and politicians generally create room for "plausible denial."

[Fantasywriter]

My question to you was, where does Anderson say that Obama merely used one of Ayers books for ‘a template’, and essentially wrote Dreams himself w Ayers only contributing ‘editing’ and ‘revisions’. You said this is what Anderson’s book “suggests”. Where and how does it ‘suggest’ the scenario you described?

[freepersup]

You’re welcome. It’s staggering what these people are, and more so what they’ve gotten away with. We are literally crumbling as a nation from the weight of it all. I honestly don’t see us escaping from it, without mass civil disobedience, which will have to be anything but civil. The founders warned us, AND gave us the tools to remedy it, so we shall see.

[Fantasywriter]

Btw, the ‘truckload’ quote must be in there b/c Jack Cashill cites it too:

‘Relying on inside sources, quite possibly Michelle Obama herself, Andersen describes how Dreams came to be published — just as I had envisioned it in my articles on the authorship of Dreams. With the deadline pressing, Michelle recommended that Barack seek advice from “his friend and Hyde Park neighbor Bill Ayers.”

To flesh out his family history, Obama had taped interviews with various family members. Andersen writes, “These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers.” Andersen quotes a Hyde Park neighbor, “Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together. It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both.”

Andersen continues, “In the end, Ayers’s contribution to Barack’s Dreams From My Father would be significant—so much so that the book’s language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers’s own writing.”’

http://gciwoqjrrmmrrjqowicg.cashill.com/natl_general/andersen_book.htm

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Okay, so now I have to go get the book again ...

Andersen says things like "What did interest Barack were Ayers's proven abilities as a writer," which might make you think that Ayers wrote the book. In the same paragraph he also says "But it was the tone Ayers had set in his latest book -- To Teach -- that Barack hoped to emulate."

Does that mean that Obama was imitating Ayers's style in what he threw together or that Obama wanted Ayers to write the book for him based on his notes and tapes. It's ambiguous. The answer may lie somewhere in between. At any rate, what's actually in Andersen's book doesn't correspond exactly to what you see on the Internet.

Later on, Andersen says "In the end Ayers's contribution to Barack's Dreams from My Father would be significant -- so much so that the book's language would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers's own writing." It's likely that Andersen thinks that Ayers actually did write the book but doesn't want to come out and say it for legal reasons. It's also possible that he doesn't have real hard evidence that Ayers actually wrote the book.

I don't know. I'd bet that some ghost-writing and a lot of editing were involved. But the idea that a thirty-something Obama simply couldn't throw together some rough manuscript on his own because the 18 or 19 year-old Obama had trouble with language or because he couldn't do so a few years earlier really doesn't work for me.

Whatever Ayers's contribution was I wouldn't go so far as to say that Obama's input was confined to tapes and notes. I don't know, but as I said, politicians and lawyers leave themselves some plausible deniability, some sliver of truth that the can hold onto to convince themselves that they aren't outright lying.

[Fantasywriter]

I'll have to reply later b/c I'm out of time. But just to clarify, who said anything about an 18 or 19 yo Obama not being able to write? Must have been somebody else; I certainly never said it.

I was talking about a post-Harvard Obama not being able to write.

More later, God willing.

[diogenes ghost]

"Everybody knows my beef with WND."

Uhhh, not everybody. But I'm new around here.

Even so, it seems as though someone is quite full of himself.

[petitfour]

At this point, what difference does it make???

(I am sure someone else already said that.)

[BuckeyeTexan]

Everyone who has frequented these threads (i.e. is a regular) about Obama since 2008 has a pretty good idea where I stand. I’ve been rather vocal about WND and Orly Taitz. I can’t help it if you missed the knock-down-drag-outs. They were quite an experience.

[Seeing More Clearly Now]

Very few adult Americans are so ignorant that they mispronounce the word “corpsman.” Such a person cannot write a book that would get published, unless he self-publishes it. One can only shudder to realize this lamebrain is commander in chief.