It’s true that Ayers comes off as an idiot, and Dinesh as a scholar, but I still think our side needs to learn how to head butt, throw elbows, and hit below the belt. This is not a Marquis of Queensbury Rule event. It’s intellectual war.
WFB knew how to do it with great eloquence, and he might have made it look too easy. The unfortunate side-effect of Buckley’s career is that liberals learned to avoid debating our brawlers, however eloquent. When Hannity can clean most of their clocks, imagine what the varsity could do. My teenager asked me why Rush Limbaugh is never on with Matt Lauer. I thought of Buckley’s explanation as to why Bobby Kennedy would not appear on Firing Line: “Why does baloney avoid the grinder?” Could Diane Feinstein last two minutes with Mark Levin? Ted Cruz against Barack Obama in an actual debate? LOL. We can dream. For now.
RE: I still think our side needs to learn how to head butt, throw elbows, and hit below the belt. This is not a Marquis of Queensbury Rule event. It’s intellectual war.
At the Aug. 28, 1964 debate in Chicago - the penultimate encounter in the series of debate between WFB and Gore Vidal ( who was of course, gay but did not openly flaunt it then ), with an estimated 10 million people watching - things began with relative calm.
But it did not stay that way, and before long the men began exchanging words that one simply didn’t hear on TV at that time. Vidal called Buckley a “pro-crypto-Nazi,” a modest slip of the tongue, he later said, because he was searching for the word “fascist” and it just didn’t come out.
Inflamed by the word “Nazi” and the whole tenor of the discussion, Buckley snapped back: “Now listen, you queer,” he said, “stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I’ll sock you in you goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.”
Watch the exchange here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpyozeraXoQ
Moderator, Howard K. Smith attempted to calm the exchange with “gentlemen, let’s not call names,” but the damage had been done. The two men, considerably subdued, met the following night for the last of their week of debates.
Is that what you mean by intellectual war?
RE: Ted Cruz against Barack Obama in an actual debate?
I’ll settle for Ted Cruz vs Hillary Clinton in 2016.
“our side needs to learn how to head butt, throw elbows, and hit below the belt’’>> As a former Leftie I have said this repeatedly to conservatives. “This isn’t a garden party madame, this is war!!’’ The only thing the Left understands is force. Either force of argument, force of will or force, like a Haymaker in the puss. They constantly talk pugnaciously about ‘’struggle’’, resistance’’ and such, well give it to them and give it to them good. make your case and don’t be afraid to paste them one too.
I think DSousa did some head butting.
Yep. I love it when our side gets in the faces, and tells them to put it where the sun don't shine. Sometimes that needs to be done.