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To: mrreaganaut

“Do you want to give up, or do you want to deny the leftists victory?”

I think when it comes to state sanctioned marriage, denying the kakistocrats victory is about the best we’re going to be able to get. Ironically, I think we’re most of the way there because fewer and fewer heterosexual couples are choosing to get married in either the sacramental or civil sense anyway. I know of several young couples who have had kids recently, and I can only recall one that was married.

I believe that the churches would be wise to more routinely allow sacramental marriage, and to skip being the unpaid agents of the state in solemnizing civil marriages. Concurrently I also think conservatives should act to end the farce of civil marriage.

With the exception of various weird couplings that want to obtain state sanction and recognition, civil marriage is on it’s last gasps anyway.


183 posted on 01/29/2014 5:11:03 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

/civil marriage is on it’s last gasps anyway./

That’s my point: there seems to be a one-way ratchet on the ‘liberalization’ of marriage. Nobody is trying to make, or even suggesting the idea of making, divorce harder to get. For 50 years we’ve ‘bravely’ fought against keeping people ‘trapped in loveless marriages.’ This one reform has thoroughly changed the idea of marriage from a set of duties into a taxpayer-funded endorsement of feelings.

‘Cause, y’know, we’re all extra-special little snowflakes who DESERVE to have our feeling CELEBRATED, ‘cause mere tolerance is really hate.


185 posted on 01/29/2014 8:23:15 AM PST by mrreaganaut (Scott Walker 2016!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

People aren’t getting married because unless you are going to have assets to shelter from probate or if you need to help out logistically with a severe illness, there just aren’t any advantages to getting married. At least not anymore. It took a while but people finally figured out that the main thing marriage does is pre authorize a guy in a long black dress to devide up your stuff. So people are avoiding it. They are starting to realize that just having kids invites government into their lives in big ways. If I have to list them, you haven’t been paying attention. The next phase is not just people refusing to marry, but refusing to procreate because biological imperative is overcome by common sense.


186 posted on 01/29/2014 8:42:06 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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