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To: cva66snipe
By today's standards I would not have made it out of high school.

You probably would have graduated. Standards are handed down from admin (or the state), but in most schools teachers can't fail too many kids because it doesn't look good. Some students can meet the standards and have the drive to really do well. Many others are socially promoted over the years, and graduate with limited academic or practical skills. It isn't right but it won't be fixed at the high school level. It means that we have to be willing to fail kids at the elementary school level and to provide whatever remediation they need to get on grade level. It runs counter to our 'feel good' culture and also forces us to acknowledge that children do not all have the same ability and drive to succeed in school.

56 posted on 01/25/2014 9:07:07 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: Think free or die
I would have likely dropped out under todays system. Not every kid has the "Gift" to pass advanced courses. I can do practical functional needed Math but not advanced. Just as physics wasn't a class I took. I opted back to basic science. I learn in a different manner. Some can pick up text books or tech manuals and have at it retaining all they read. A tech manual for me is simply reference usage.

Back when I was in high school or for that matter all the way back to the 1960's elementary schools were set up to allow book worms or gifted to take more advanced classes and there was basics for others. Math passed me by at about the seventh grade. My reading ability in school was not that great. Don't get me wrong. I can likely read on a high school level it was my ability to read and focus that was the issue. No discipline, no forcing, no threatening with a ruler, could change that fact.

Yet I could walk into one of the most advanced telecommunications equipment office of that era and learn how to large floors of electrical mechanical switching worked and troubleshoot. It was my dads office where he worked. He was a high school drop out in the mid 1940's his junior year. He had the gift for Geometry so much so he was sent to Fire Control School in the Navy.

The whole idea of school is bassackwards to what it should be. Rather than in high school acknowledging strengths, interest, and talent, the focus is on Money for Test Scores and mandatory classes for such. Kids are learning how to take text but not as such practical knowledge.

Education can help you and it can also mean little. One guy on the ship was a washout of the nuclear propulsion program. He didn't finish the school. He was book smart likely on a genius level in some aspects. He was also one of the most impulsive and reckless persons I ever met with zero common sense. Another guy who had also flunked Nuke school did good in the shop and went on later to become a Math Professor.

It took me thirteen years to get from first grade to graduation day. Another five more would not have helped the final outcome. All things considered I put what I have retained education and experience wise well above the level of what is being turned out in advanced courses focused schools of today.

I didn't end up as a janitor I ended up as a three trade trained maintenance mechanic working in a health care facility. I could take a 50 hp 3 phase motor and wire it up even as far as a complex hook up change over from a six wire motor controller to where same controller would operate a three wire motor. IOW phase identification of all six conductors and getting the six conductors correctly down to three the motor required. Something my boss said would not work. LOL. The contractor he called got there just as I was finishing up and said yeap that's what we would have done.

Not all kids have the same ability to achieve the same levels in school and it is fact including medical fact in a lot of cases. That doesn't mean the kid is slow, stupid, or not teachable. The same focus aimed at advanced classes which hey I'm all for those having "Gift" for such should be given to those not so gifted is what I am saying. That part was almost worked out until schools became test focused rather than learning and teaching focused.

We need doctors and engineers. We also need electricians, mechanics, truck drivers, etc. To say each needs the same curriculum or level on a even high school courses is insane.

Education book wise doesn't always equal proficiency practical wise. A few years back a surveyor was marking out a high voltage power line across my property. I looked at his stakes marking the route. I said hey the place you are needing to intersect with is off {pointing about 45 degrees another direction} that way. He had a USGS map on him he was going by. I didn't but I was right.

63 posted on 01/25/2014 10:32:19 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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