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How Free Trade Is Killing Middle America
The American Conservative ^
| Jan. 24, 2014
| Patrick J. Buchanan
Posted on 01/24/2014 6:36:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
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posted on
01/24/2014 2:55:18 PM PST
by
Mad Dawgg
(If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
To: Mad Dawgg; central_va
Its about the NEXT factory, tariffs would influence manufacturers considering moving offshore. "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."
To: 1rudeboy
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posted on
01/24/2014 3:06:00 PM PST
by
Mad Dawgg
(If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
To: DannyTN
Raising the import tariffs by 10% would fund a $1500 per worker individual income tax cut.Yes! It's about time our retired citizens started paying their fair share.
Tell Gramps to cough it up, I want my tax cut!!
Thanks to the lowered tariff, we now tax domestic producers much higher than we tax foreign producers.
Well, we could cut our highest in the world corporate tax rate, but that would give the government less power over our economy. I know how you'd hate that.
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posted on
01/24/2014 3:32:26 PM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: Buckeye McFrog
I do believe the coming Populist wave is going to include a resurgence of the Ross Perot No More Free Trade! position.Count me out! There's never been a successful tariff.
To: DannyTN; 1rudeboy
Unemployment, medicaid, food stamps, and other support programs would all fall if unemployment falls. Unemployment supposedly fell from over 10% to under 7%. Can you show how much spending on unemployment, medicaid and food stamps has declined?
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posted on
01/24/2014 4:23:05 PM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: DannyTN
The wage differential dwarfs the cost of regulation compliance. So eliminating the costs of compliance isn't enough to solve our problem. How much is the cost of regulation compliance?
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posted on
01/24/2014 4:28:57 PM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
You should direct that question to my retired furniture manufacturing engineer friends. The companies for which they once worked are gone. Regulation did them in, forcing production off shore.
To be acceptable, furniture required finishes that became impossible to provide and be in compliance. That was but one of the causes.
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posted on
01/24/2014 4:35:05 PM PST
by
bert
((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
To: DannyTN
A lot of what you say is true, but some of it not so true.
In the 60’s and 70’s people laughed and scoffed at the “made in japan” label. Then in the early 80’s they were all of a sudden cleaning our clocks percentage wise, then by the late 80’s caught up with and surpassed the quality and value of American made cars.
It took funding for them to get there and we provided that funding and continue to provide that funding through trade deficits.
To: Beagle8U
Youre wasting your time having an economic debate with unionists. Their Communist/Socialist leaders ate their brains.
Indeed.
Jesus Christ: You cant impeach Him and He aint going to resign.
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posted on
01/24/2014 5:57:04 PM PST
by
rdb3
(Drive for show, putt for dough. No wonder why I stayed broke on the links!)
To: central_va
Re: Youre wasting your time having an economic debate with unionists. Their Communist/Socialist leaders ate their brains.
This gets so confusing the protectionist are called communists by the free traders who in turn get in bed with Communist China to produce our consumer goods using slave labor? Wait, What?
ROFL
Seriously connecting 'free trade' as in NAFTA etc to red China and neo slave labor is way above the pay grade of many, despite the evidence. Yuri was correct.
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posted on
01/24/2014 6:52:00 PM PST
by
khelus
To: khelus
Heck, I’d just like you to connect NAFTA to Red China.
To: Toddsterpatriot
"Unemployment supposedly fell from over 10% to under 7%."![](http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gif?hl=ad&t=1389365936)
The fact that food stamps hasn't fallen and is still growing is a pretty good indicator about what's happening to employment.
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posted on
01/24/2014 9:02:07 PM PST
by
DannyTN
(A>)
To: DannyTN
When you have a Commie-in-Chief expanding benefits, regardless of the actual underlying economy, we should give him more power and money.
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posted on
01/24/2014 9:08:41 PM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: DannyTN
"Re: Unemployment supposedly fell from over 10% to under 7%."
![](http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gif?hl=ad&t=1389365936)
The fact that food stamps hasn't fallen and is still growing is a pretty good indicator about what's happening to employment.
And .... that chart does not count as underemployed, those who are skilled and experienced, but working dead end low wage jobs because that's all there is and they are 'lucky' to get those jobs.
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posted on
01/25/2014 5:52:10 AM PST
by
khelus
To: Partisan Gunslinger
There's never been a successful tariff. FedGov's primary source of revenue up to 1913 was tariffs. But that wasn't a "successful" time in US history...
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posted on
01/25/2014 6:00:02 AM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: khelus
Wow, that’s a lot of unemployed people you want to raise taxes on.
To: Partisan Gunslinger
I would point to China, and question your assertion.
China is among the most closed markets.
They’ve taken a huge amount of American business. Bring it back.
To: 1rudeboy
None other than Bill Krystal stated last week that the free trade agreements had not worked as well in practice as they had in theory. You “free trade uber alles” types are just as doctrinaire and out of touch as the leftists.
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posted on
01/25/2014 6:24:10 AM PST
by
hcmama
To: hcmama
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