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How Free Trade Is Killing Middle America
The American Conservative ^ | Jan. 24, 2014 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 01/24/2014 6:36:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy

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To: 1rudeboy

LOL


201 posted on 01/24/2014 2:55:18 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg; central_va
Its about the NEXT factory, tariffs would influence manufacturers considering moving offshore.

"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."

202 posted on 01/24/2014 3:03:38 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

hahahahah


203 posted on 01/24/2014 3:06:00 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: DannyTN
Raising the import tariffs by 10% would fund a $1500 per worker individual income tax cut.

Yes! It's about time our retired citizens started paying their fair share.

Tell Gramps to cough it up, I want my tax cut!!

Thanks to the lowered tariff, we now tax domestic producers much higher than we tax foreign producers.

Well, we could cut our highest in the world corporate tax rate, but that would give the government less power over our economy. I know how you'd hate that.

204 posted on 01/24/2014 3:32:26 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I do believe the coming Populist wave is going to include a resurgence of the Ross Perot “No More Free Trade!” position.

Count me out! There's never been a successful tariff.

205 posted on 01/24/2014 3:54:49 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: DannyTN; 1rudeboy
Unemployment, medicaid, food stamps, and other support programs would all fall if unemployment falls.

Unemployment supposedly fell from over 10% to under 7%. Can you show how much spending on unemployment, medicaid and food stamps has declined?

206 posted on 01/24/2014 4:23:05 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: DannyTN
The wage differential dwarfs the cost of regulation compliance. So eliminating the costs of compliance isn't enough to solve our problem.

How much is the cost of regulation compliance?

207 posted on 01/24/2014 4:28:57 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You should direct that question to my retired furniture manufacturing engineer friends. The companies for which they once worked are gone. Regulation did them in, forcing production off shore.

To be acceptable, furniture required finishes that became impossible to provide and be in compliance. That was but one of the causes.


208 posted on 01/24/2014 4:35:05 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: DannyTN

A lot of what you say is true, but some of it not so true.

In the 60’s and 70’s people laughed and scoffed at the “made in japan” label. Then in the early 80’s they were all of a sudden cleaning our clocks percentage wise, then by the late 80’s caught up with and surpassed the quality and value of American made cars.

It took funding for them to get there and we provided that funding and continue to provide that funding through trade deficits.


209 posted on 01/24/2014 4:59:09 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Beagle8U
You’re wasting your time having an economic debate with unionists.

Their Communist/Socialist leaders ate their brains.

Indeed.

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t going to resign.



210 posted on 01/24/2014 5:57:04 PM PST by rdb3 (Drive for show, putt for dough. No wonder why I stayed broke on the links!)
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To: central_va
Re: You’re wasting your time having an economic debate with unionists. Their Communist/Socialist leaders ate their brains.

This gets so confusing the protectionist are called communists by the free traders who in turn get in bed with Communist China to produce our consumer goods using slave labor? Wait, What?


ROFL

Seriously connecting 'free trade' as in NAFTA etc to red China and neo slave labor is way above the pay grade of many, despite the evidence. Yuri was correct.
211 posted on 01/24/2014 6:52:00 PM PST by khelus
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To: khelus

Heck, I’d just like you to connect NAFTA to Red China.


212 posted on 01/24/2014 6:58:43 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"Unemployment supposedly fell from over 10% to under 7%."

The fact that food stamps hasn't fallen and is still growing is a pretty good indicator about what's happening to employment.

213 posted on 01/24/2014 9:02:07 PM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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To: DannyTN

When you have a Commie-in-Chief expanding benefits, regardless of the actual underlying economy, we should give him more power and money.


214 posted on 01/24/2014 9:08:41 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: DannyTN
"Re: Unemployment supposedly fell from over 10% to under 7%."




The fact that food stamps hasn't fallen and is still growing is a pretty good indicator about what's happening to employment.


And .... that chart does not count as underemployed, those who are skilled and experienced, but working dead end low wage jobs because that's all there is and they are 'lucky' to get those jobs.
215 posted on 01/25/2014 5:52:10 AM PST by khelus
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
There's never been a successful tariff.

FedGov™'s primary source of revenue up to 1913 was tariffs. But that wasn't a "successful" time in US history...

216 posted on 01/25/2014 6:00:02 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: khelus

Wow, that’s a lot of unemployed people you want to raise taxes on.


217 posted on 01/25/2014 6:20:30 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

I would point to China, and question your assertion.

China is among the most closed markets.

They’ve taken a huge amount of American business. Bring it back.


218 posted on 01/25/2014 6:22:20 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: 1rudeboy

None other than Bill Krystal stated last week that the free trade agreements had not worked as well in practice as they had in theory. You “free trade uber alles” types are just as doctrinaire and out of touch as the leftists.


219 posted on 01/25/2014 6:24:10 AM PST by hcmama
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To: hcmama

Who is Bill Krystal?


220 posted on 01/25/2014 6:32:13 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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