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To: Ingtar; Neil E. Wright; Travis McGee
"Am I the only one who thinks a convention would be a bad idea in today’s environment? Calling a convention opens up a multitude of opportunities for mischief. The reason for calling the convention is not binding. We would more likely get a pair of amendments legalizing gay marriage and illegal aliens than anything that is helpful."

I'm no expert, but I believe you are confusing a Convention of States with a Congressional Constitutional Convention. The former only allows certain Amendments to be introduced as agreed by the States; the later allows everything, much like the original Constitutional Convention. Somebody tell me if I'm wrong.

123 posted on 02/17/2014 7:27:18 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: A Navy Vet; Neil E. Wright; Travis McGee; Taxman; Jim Robinson
Again, unless I'm misreading my pocket Constitution, 3/4ths of the States can propose specific Amendments without a general Constitutional Convention convened by Congress. Of course, said Amendments would have to be ratified by the same 3/4ths.

Some say I'm correct; some say wrong. I believe I'm correct.

What I have in mind for a Convention of States is to clarify our current Amendments to eliminate ambiguity in the courts. In no certain order:

1. Clarify the 2nd Amendment in today's legalese so all can conceal or open carry;
2. Clarify and specify the 4th Amendment to stop the NSA and Fedgov agencies from invading our privacy and rights;
3. Clarify the 5th Amendment regarding due process of loss of property. Too many local officials confiscate property even if owner NOT proven to be in violation of law;
4. Eliminate the "general welfare" clause in the preamble as a legal argument. It never has had legal standing, it is just an introduction to the Constitutional Compact.
Also, eliminate "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" in the Declaration of Independence as a legal argument. The DOC has limited legal standing in domestic matters except for our statement to the King of Great Britain and our right to eliminate an oppressive government. It should have NO bearing on attempts to make everyone equal. That wasn't the point other than equal liberty to "pursue happiness", but not equal outcome. The Founding Fathers were very clear in their INTENT;
5. Amendment to restrict the "Commerce Clause" which has so been abused from original intent, it is now obscene. It is the favorite tool of the politicians and they have distorted the original intent so much that it's unrecognizable;
6. Which brings me to an Amendment that ALL laws and regulations should be reviewed by a non-partisan entity like the CBO to insure compliance with ORIGINAL INTENT and reviewed within 30 days before voting in Congress. Not difficult with all the papers, correspondence, writings of the Founding Fathers. They may have debated between themselves, but what was signed in the Constitution is LAW, and so are Amendments. Just need to clarify some according to INTENT.
7. Most importantly, it's apparent that we need another Amendment to spell out States' rights. Seems the 9th and 10th Amendments weren't enough. What's it going to take? A revolution from the States? Looks like many are ready to tell DC to shove it. Yes, I know about the Constitutional clause that says all States must abide by the Federalist contract when they joined the Union under contract.

However, remember, Amendments like addendums to a contract are just that. They eliminate, modify, supersede particular areas of a Contract as does the 10th Amendment, which is now ignored by the Fedgov;
8. Repeal the 17th Amendment. Since that Amendment hasn't worked so well, I'll take my chances with State Legislatures appointing Senators.
9. Amend the 14th to include only natural born citizens or naturalized citizens who take an oath to give up any foreign citizenship. If not the fore-mentioned, they have no rights to welfare nor vote nor hold public office. As of now they supposedly can't vote, but we know they do.
10.Most important Amendment, "sunset" ALL legislation after 4 years, except for military funding. Make the cowards in DC vote for their projects and special interests time and again. Since we can't get term limits, this would make them think twice about their political leanings/careers.

This is just a start. Feel free to add...

124 posted on 02/17/2014 9:29:39 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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