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To: Smokin' Joe
"Actually, they were killed because Weaver wouldn't roll over and inform on neighbors and associates who were suspected of being raycists..."

No, see you can't legally shoot someone or arrest them for NOT being an informant. They were killed because of a stupid 200 dollar tax which gives the BATF the power to kill without concern for the Constitution.

None of the people who violated the Weaver's Constitutional Rights ever suffered a single "legal" consequence.

People saying they will "give guns to who ever they please" no matter what the laws say are doing two things.

1. They are showing the really don't understand the situation.

2. They are further showing their ignorance by declaring such openly on a website that is guaranteed to be monitored by the very folks that enforce those laws.

86 posted on 01/23/2014 6:28:39 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
People saying they will "give guns to who ever they please" no matter what the laws say are doing two things.

Okay, so you are buying the gun as an investment. You know it will hold its value, or even grow in value, so your intent is to put the firearm away, in the box, never fired, and sell it at a later date. Are you in violation of the clause because your intent is to transfer the firearm rather than use it? (You aren't buying it for yourself as the end user).

The transfer in question is not willy nilly distributing firearms to just anyone, but a case of selling the gun to someone known--transaction performed through a dealer (FFL, NICS, 4473)--someone who is not prohibited by law from owning a firearm.

Big difference from selling Ravens out of a car trunk in the 'hood (or hauling guns to the cartels--which iirc, did not get prosecuted).

152 posted on 01/23/2014 3:30:05 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

One more point: It was the 200 dollar tax they were going to use as leverage against Weaver to get him to be an informant. It was all the law they needed to prosecute. But when he wouldn’t play their game they decided to make an example of him. It is the latter butthurt on the part of the BATF that led to the slaughter on Ruby Ridge.


153 posted on 01/23/2014 3:32:36 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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