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1 posted on 01/20/2014 11:00:32 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What passes for education in public schools is nothing short of child abuse.

And they have no respect for the parents at all.


2 posted on 01/20/2014 11:04:18 AM PST by marron
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To: Kaslin

Nothing good can ever come of what the schools are doing to our children.


4 posted on 01/20/2014 11:06:08 AM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Kaslin
I remember when public schools weren't so bad either, relatively speaking. Which is odd because at the time (1970s), public schools were perceived to be falling apart - reference "Welcome Back Kotter" and that sitcom portrayed my urban public school at the time pretty accurately.

Breakfast Club it wasn't.

We even had a dog graduate with us but then again, that golden retriever graduated with the class every year it was alive - it was the school's adopted mascot, a stray taken in by one of the janitors around 1977, and it had the freedom to wander the halls and classrooms at will - something that would never be allowed today because some kid's mother would complain about her kid having some dog allergy or whatnot.

Anyway, whether you choose to send your kids to public school or private school, the responsibility for teaching your kids resides with you, the parent. From what I'm hearing, private schools might be better structured academically but they are still infested with the same politically correct nonsense as the public schools. Even in private school, you will have to deal with peanut butter bans, books about "two mommies" and a complete ban on all things Christmas - unless maybe you happen to be enrolled in a parochial Catholic school.

5 posted on 01/20/2014 11:12:46 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Kaslin

While truly offensive, the sex poster pales in comparison to the LGBT tolerance day lecture at Tufts that taught students the alleged pleasure of fisting and advised young people to be prepared to experiment by carrying a supply of condoms, when you go to the park to look for like minded partners.

I have to wonder if that Tufts LGBT confab is still taking place for local high school students.


6 posted on 01/20/2014 11:14:33 AM PST by Eva
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To: Kaslin

Even the suburban school districts are lousy. But doughy suburban house fraus don’t send their kids to actually learn useful skills. They send them there to play sports and be in clubs. If any actual learning happens that’s just a bonus. If that government institution wasn’t soaking up 10 to 12 hours a day of their spawns’ time they might have to do a little hands on parenting and spend some quality time with the little bastards, and we can’t have that, can we? Hard to blame those parents. I mean have you met any of the kids they whelped out? Those miscreants are horrible people. They whine and pout and just want to play with their phones.


7 posted on 01/20/2014 11:22:08 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Kaslin

I used to think giving vouchers to kids in bad schools so they could go to private schools was the answer. Not anymore. Most of the kids in bad schools are troublemakers. In my experience, surrounding bad students with good students doesn’t make the bad student better. Just the opposite. The bad student/troublemaker makes the good students bad. Like a barrel of apples. Drop a rotten apple in the barrel and it’s not long before the whole barrel is rotten. Flooding private schools with bad students in the hope they will change will destroy private schools.


9 posted on 01/20/2014 11:28:23 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Kaslin

I hated public school.


16 posted on 01/20/2014 11:34:45 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade
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To: Kaslin

Not all public schools are bad, some of them are still doing a decent job for the most part. Here in S.C. Indiana they even still walk the 3rd grade kids to a church every week during school day for a non-secular religion class. Those who don’t want to can opt out and stay in the classroom. They also still say a prayer before lunch here, but they call it anything but that of course. The kindergarten teacher all my kids had still does it before snack time as well. A big reason I moved to a rural part of the state to get away from all of this that I read here about other public school districts and what they have to put up with.

Of course we have the lowlife idiots like everywhere else, but for the most part it isn’t tolerated when they disturb the kids who are there to learn like other places. They also don’t, or at least I haven’t seen any sign of it, pull that liberal crap about gays or global warming or any of the other big issues. This poster mentioned in the article? That teacher would have been run out of this town tarred and feathered if they tried that here, good grief half the town would have shown up with pitchforks if that was in our local paper I think.


20 posted on 01/20/2014 11:48:33 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Kaslin

I went to PS 41 and PS 76 in the Bronx NY back in the 50’s learned a lot. Some of my friends went to PS 113 also in the Bronx. Heard of many horror stories there. My parents had the good sense to move to Northern NJ before I started High School. Had a great education in the Bergen County public HS system.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 11:53:43 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Kaslin
My children attended public school and I am very well aware of the problems. I could tell you stories about incompetent teachers, gangs and other problems. But a lot of it depends on your kids.

My kids took a/p and college classes in high school. They have since graduated from college and they have good jobs. They are not perfect by any means but they never got involved with gangs or bad people, never got pregnant, never took drugs etc.

A lot of it is the values you teach your kids. If you teach them to be strong, self-reliant and moral they can do ok.

23 posted on 01/20/2014 11:56:59 AM PST by detective
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24 posted on 01/20/2014 11:57:34 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Kaslin
Most middle class to upper class families are getting exactly what they want out of school, but the damage comes at the margins. Both the marginal families/students and the marginal qualitative difference at the top between what those mid to upper class families are getting.

Have you seen this?

Most students—whether A students, C students, or failing ones—have lost their zest for learning by the time they’ve reached middle school or high school. In a telling research study, professors Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi and Jeremy Hunter fitted more than 800 sixth through 12th graders, from 33 different schools across the country, with special wristwatches that emitted a signal at random times of day. Each time they received a signal, the students filled out a questionnaire indicating where they were, what they were doing, and how happy or unhappy they felt at the moment. The lowest levels of happiness, by far, were reported when the children were in school, where they were often bored, anxious, or both. Other researchers have shown that, with each successive grade, students develop increasingly negative attitudes toward the subjects taught, especially math and science.

As a society, we tend to shrug off such findings. We’re not surprised that kids are unhappy in school. Some people even believe that the very unpleasantness of school is good for children, so they will learn to tolerate unpleasantness as preparation for real life. But there are plenty of opportunities to learn to tolerate unpleasantness without adding unpleasant schooling to the mix. Research has shown that people of all ages learn best when they are self-motivated, pursuing answers to questions that reflect their personal interests and achieving goals that they’ve set for themselves. Under such conditions, learning is usually joyful.

Is the American School System Damaging Our Kids?

31 posted on 01/20/2014 12:19:14 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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I’m often amazed how so many FReepers think nothing of slandering 99% of other FReepers.


40 posted on 01/20/2014 5:25:40 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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Indeed.


45 posted on 03/22/2014 2:19:00 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

46 posted on 03/22/2014 2:35:19 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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