HB744 Forces Gay Agenda on Hawaii Churches

Hawaii Free Press ^ | January 17, 2014 | Hawaii Family Advocates

[kaehurowing]

HB744 will prevent discrimination on the basis “race, religion or sexual orientation” in any “…activity receiving state or county financial assistance or utilizing state or county facilities.”

Activities that constitute discrimination include: exclusion “from participation in, be(ing) denied the benefits of, or be(ing) subjected to discrimination”.

Using this broad language, any church or religious organization holding services at a state or county facility (such as a public school cafeteria or auditorium) could not deny services or benefits associated with their organization. This could include participation in services, membership to the religious organization or even the sanctioning of a same-sex marriage.

Any religious organization not in compliance with HB744 would be subject to an “action”. Due to the vague language, the arbiter of this action would be the Hawaii Civil Rights Commission whose actions continue to erode religious freedoms. Any choice between a person’s religious beliefs and a place to worship is no choice at all.

[LouAvul]

This would force such churches

No, this would force churches to go back to the "house church" concept. It (the church) needs to abandon its current corporate, big business model, anyway.

1 Cor 16:19: "Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house."

[LibLieSlayer]

Here is the FIRST SENTENCE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. This law is illegal since it violates the second part of the first sentence.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF;

I have already listed in another thread this morning, many Bible passages proving my point. To force this abomination onto churches is to force these churches away from freely exercising their religion.

[SoFloFreeper]

Sodom and Gomorrah. Didn’t turn out too nifty for the inhabitants thereof.

[Amendment10]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF;

Noting that our Bill of Rights protections originally did not apply to the states, Congress has NOT made a law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. So Congress has NOT violated the 1st Amendment with this issue.

On the other hand, the 14th Amendment was made in part to apply Bill of Rights protections to the states, the states now obligated to respect enumerated constitutional rights. And based on the clear languange of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, the state of Hawaii has gone too far, imo, with respect to making a gay tolerance law which reasonably abridges the Constituton's 1st Amendment protection of religious expression.

[LibLieSlayer]

Some American states will not comply.

[kaehurowing]

In Hawaii you cannot have house churches because it violates the zoning code.

[LouAvul]

My wife and I have been worshipping, by ourselves, in our home, on Sunday mornings, for several years. Our service/devotion includes: studying the Bible as the divinely inspired word of God (as our only source of word and doctrine), singing A Cappella (which means, "in the way of the church"), taking communion, and prayer.

They cannot outlaw that. And if I opt to have a few friends over for visit on Sunday, they cannot outlaw that.

The problem is that contemporary "Christians" are so wedded to the corporate/business model of "worship" and "Chrisianity", that they are unable to function without some highly paid/poorly paid religious professional/synod/wahtever telling them what they have to believe or practice.

Get away from ritual. "Call no man father", etc. Find out what God wants from and for, you!

That's what freedom of religion guarantees. They can't outlaw that.